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[ThePollie]

His zone attack is ****. Fine, have your cookie, your medal, and your Tumblr Buzzword Badge of Honour.

Crying "salt" every time you're told something you don't like isn't an argument.

[TheMalakith]

So much salt. You make him greater than he is. Try playing against a passive reactive player, good luck.




Yeah and Shugokis zone is even worse.



Seriously, I'm talking about the zone attacks and all you guys do is "Hurr durr, he is super OP NERF". Can we discuss this properly?

No. Since there is no reason to buff it as he's currently one of the most OP characters in the game. It's not being salty, it's kinda childish to say that to everyone that dissagree's with you.

[GreatSunJester]

The Shugoki is far from OP, and I suspect most folk that claim so should go and play a few matches with him. He takes a lot of work to do well with, and a decent assassin will run rings around him with dodges and light attacks. I used to struggle against him, but now that I've played a few matches with him and understand what he can do, I can confidently beat him in most encounters.

At present, Demon's Embrace is rubbish. Slow and hideously telegraphed, it is very difficult to get off effectively. That said, the instant death when on low health is too much. Heavy damage and some minor healing would be better. I think most Shugoki players would happily trade the hug'o'doom for a more effective way to close the distance with opponents, as getting in to engage is very difficult.

[Baine1]

This thread is about the zone attack comon people. There are several Shugoki threads elsewhere.

[forrest0755]

You dont see me complaining because the Raiders unblockable can be easily parried. Or that he is to slow. Every character has weaknesses. They are there for a reason. The guy hits harder than anyone, and can take more hits than anyone. He is hard to block, and hard to hit. Just because there is one flaw, doesnt mean that flaw needs to be fixed. Should everyone who plays Peace Keeper be asking for them to have more health? You are calling us salty, but you are the one complainingbecause a strong character has a tiny flaw.

[ThePollie]

Yes, and? You whined that his zone attack is bad. Oh, well. Zone-attacks aren't mainstray attacks. They're literally designed to attack multiple targets. Not everyone has a zone-attack that's particularly useful in 1v1s. It happens. Get over it.

[Haus_Gnom]

@Fordol: Demon's embrace is rubbish?! All you need to do is shove someone into a wall (which is very simple with guardbreaks that go through attacks) and then you get the embrace for free. The character with the highest HP gets a free heal and good damage against enemies on throwing them against a wall. Seems legit.

[ThePollie]

Yeah. The grab is only crap if you just ran at people willy nilly with it. What makes it powerful is the fact there are instances you can't physically avoid it, and what it does is absolutely massive.

[Baine1]

You dont see me complaining because the Raiders unblockable can be easily parried. Or that he is to slow. Every character has weaknesses. They are there for a reason. The guy hits harder than anyone, and can take more hits than anyone. He is hard to block, and hard to hit. Just because there is one flaw, doesnt mean that flaw needs to be fixed. Should everyone who plays Peace Keeper be asking for them to have more health? You are calling us salty, but you are the one complainingbecause a strong character has a tiny flaw.

Sigh. Looks like you use the raiders unblockable at the wrong time then.

He may hit harder but his attacks are definitely not "hard to block", they are literally slow as ****. If you cant block that, you are doing it wrong. Also i had to laugh, he can take more hits than anyone. Yeah let me guess, you back off after every hit you land. Try going for light attacks and dont give him room to breathe, with light attacks and the increased damage the shugoki suffers after his initial armour is broken, you can literally kill him with several light attacks. There are classes who get guaranteed followup hits that literally crap on Shugoki.
But the current meta is not yet established and people apparently still try to go for heavy attacks vs Shugoki most of the time, then end up in forum threads like this and complain.

Pretty much every unblockable can be easily parried, but imost classes (this includes the raider) have the means to actually make it harder by e.g. stunning them.

I was giving feedback on the Shugoki zone which in my view is just not useful at all. They can take it away because instead of that I can just do normal heavy attacks for the same effect. But I give up. This forum is like cancer.