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[Funeragon]

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Yeah so i met some people playing warlods/warden saying their char arn't op at all and that Orochi was. What's wrong in their mind ?
Orochi has no full block stance, He has no throw distance, he has no uninterruptable heavy, he has no unblockable push, he has no health, he has not that fast attacks. Warlods have it all.
Only thing is has is pretty good dodge (Who care when parry is just better ?) and a double heavy hit (who care when his side attack are slow as hell.)

And now i'm a cancer because i run away against someone that just walk back and never attack and wait for his mate.
PLZ WHAT IS THIS COMMUNITY. OMG

[KUJO_KID]

Orochi's aren't as underwhelming as you are making them out to be. They have everything in their kit that they need to kill another hero, and he shouldn't be compared to a heavy. Warlords win by attrition and by punishing other heroes.

If you play against a Warlord who is just throwing out heavy attacks to trade with you, then feint your heavy to bait his and then turn it into a parry>GB>heavy combo or a deflect counter. This game relies on mind games, if you can make them think you are about to do something that you aren't then you will win. Also, no need to trade with any other classes as an orochi, his side light attacks do pretty well for punishing a hero who attacks or isn't expecting it.

[Funeragon]

Orochi has the slowest attack speed of assassins, his only advantage compared to other assassin is storm rush (predictable) and double hit top.
Everyone wins by punishing others.
If u bait, then can either : not be baited, cancel their failed parry.
No mind game possible when u can just cancel parry.
Orochi's side are slowest and weakiest, why using them ??

[Rednaught.]

I find Shugoki incredibly difficult to defeat 1v1. Most of the time they are Uninterruptible and it harder at the same time, along with their large Health pool. Am I saying they are overpowered? No, you just need to learn how to deal with them.

In the case of a Warlord, who cares about his full block stance when you can easily Guardbreak him?

[Funeragon]

I find Shugoki incredibly difficult to defeat 1v1. Most of the time they are Uninterruptible and it harder at the same time, along with their large Health pool. Am I saying they are overpowered? No, you just need to learn how to deal with them.

In the case of a Warlord, who cares about his full block stance when you can easily Guardbreak him?

And yeah i find it too for shugoki, but i don't complain because he has other weaknessess. As for an example, he'll try to start an attack at the same time as you, easy to feint him. Or again, he is really slow.
I don't care because they don't use them, but they can easily use it as a reflex and not a stance.