Serious talk: Conqueror most broken class ingame | Forums

[Skarik-]

Lets try to Talk serious,
im a lvl 10 Reputation 1 conqueror.
I know what i have Seen.
Trying to start this Thead for ubisoft to make some changes.
Its kinda Late and dont really know where to start with whats everything broken with Conqueror.
I seriously cant See this class Compete any well against someone with a Bit of skill. In short his defence abilities are fine, except for the special down guard stance is kinda pointless its just a normal Auto block... Warlord Stuns you on the other Hand...
Should be the Same or some Kind of OpenIng Window for a attack.
The down + counter special is impossible to Hit with ur Fingers LOL
How are you supposed to press down And Hit square... anyway

Lets start with his light attacks... Completely easy blockable that is super slowl everyone beyond lvl 10 Blocks that blind... impossible to start 1 of ur 2 Combos the conqueror has... great.

The damage of the charged attack in combination After a block is alright i guess.

Now the most broken Parts is his "special" his shield bashes .. All it does is pushes the enemy away.. no Stamina Drain of the enemy or anything except pushing him back.
try to live with that while Warlord special down Stuns you. and Hits like a Brick with Tons of unblockables..

To be honest i really dont know where the Problem lies with the Conqueror. Give me a other class and I do so much better.

After These 2 days it feels just like a fun low Tier class After some skill Level of Tier you just get whooped.

I didnt Hit the skill Level of countering enemy Hits with heavy attacks yet but i doubt that will change much.
Edit: im starting to reach that skill Level but After the neglect of the attack its Not possible to follow up with a heavy attack. So im starting a dangerous parry by attacking during a enemys attack only to neglect his attack and he blocking my follow up attack ending me in just wasting stamina...

Now to the health issue. Im a Tank yet i get Ripped apart in 2vs1 while beeing super squishy. If i miss a block like only 3 times im bloody dead. So damn squishy. The damn naginata girl holds out more damage than a Conqueror who is wearing Plate armour... what logic is that..

Win ratio 80.00%
Overall k/d/a 3.11


Well uffff now ive came to relieve my thoughts yet i feel i didnt tell anything to make it better ...

Hope this thread Stays clean and serious id really like to See this hero be fixed soon.

[Shinimas]

Presige 1 lvl 10 and you don't know his shield bash can be followed with a light attack? Unless I'm misunderstading you. Conqueror has Deflect, it's not in the abilities, but he has it. This is how you fight a decent Warden, for example: keep blocking left, occasionally lifting it to bait his zone attack which you can block to get a guaranteed GB, otherwise keep it on the left and watch for his top light. When he does the top light - dash forward, which will block the attack and make him recoil, use shield bash and follow up with light attack. If your distance shifts to a more close quarters battle you can occasionally throw random lights or GBs, as well as feint lights with omniblock. Against slow classes it's fairly safe to just dash into their face and bash them for free lights. I think the omniblock stance can block after you got shoulder bashed by Warden and maybe even side-dodged by an assassin, but I actually keep forgetting to test it lol

[PathlessMoss]

Well if your winning 80% of your matches and have a 3+ KD I think your stats contradict your own claims.

[Skarik-]

Yes shield bash can be followed up by a light attack. One. Which is no damage whatsoever. Deflecting an attack cant be followed up by anything you can just block whatever is coming.
Full block stance is untrustworthy, so many times used and executions just went trough lmao. Good stuff.
Just had the fun of playing against Raiders that 2 Hit you, literrally, 1 Hit 50% hp gone. Good stuff. Speaking of full block stance, it doesnt even work against the ******** Orochi bow skill that kills like 80% of your hp. Good stuff. Working well.


I still need to learn how to fake a strong Hit then go down to full block to cancel it to make like a fake move. But again pointless playing Arround just wasting ur own stamina for nothing.

Conqueror has good defence but when it comes to offense its just Not normal.

The comparison between warlord and conqueror is just so plain unfair. WarLord gets so much defensive stuff that staggers you as a counter Attacker, which actually Conqueror SHOULD have.. the comparison between any light class, how much damage they can eat, Compared to the conqueror is hilarious too.

[Shinimas]

You can follow up a deflect by shield bashing which leads into light attack. It does damage, about half a bar of HP. Warlord is broken, but his most broken part is arguable headbutt into light attack, which does less damage than shield bash + light on Conq.
Conq isn't top tier, but he's not terrible either. Top tier characters have to be nerfed, that's all.

[m0u-1337]

I lose every fcking game against a conqueror (im raider), so dont QQ about being underpowered when u are in fact balanced.

[VMPL1]

Conq is one of the most balanced classes in the game right now. What are you talking about? Lawbringer and Raider need more attention than him, hell, even PK needs more attention than him.

[TCTF_SWAT]

Yes shield bash can be followed up by a light attack. One. Which is no damage whatsoever. Deflecting an attack cant be followed up by anything you can just block whatever is coming.
Full block stance is untrustworthy, so many times used and executions just went trough lmao. Good stuff.
Just had the fun of playing against Raiders that 2 Hit you, literrally, 1 Hit 50% hp gone. Good stuff. Speaking of full block stance, it doesnt even work against the ******** Orochi bow skill that kills like 80% of your hp. Good stuff. Working well.


I still need to learn how to fake a strong Hit then go down to full block to cancel it to make like a fake move. But again pointless playing Arround just wasting ur own stamina for nothing.

Conqueror has good defence but when it comes to offense its just Not normal.

The comparison between warlord and conqueror is just so plain unfair. WarLord gets so much defensive stuff that staggers you as a counter Attacker, which actually Conqueror SHOULD have.. the comparison between any light class, how much damage they can eat, Compared to the conqueror is hilarious too.

You can't block feats how do you not know this?

[Niamak]

There are two important tricks with conquerors. This is one of them : https://youtu.be/0H3ZFSeULXY?t=24m48s

[Aarpian2]

Conq is definitely one of the stronger classes right now, mainly due to the fact that he can completely bypass the whole parry-punish system on offence while simultaneously being one of the best abusers of it.