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[l_Azure_l]

Well, i played open Beta and i would say that my reactions are quite good.
But it seems like the Valkyries move set ist kinda buggy. even against bots (how to play -> duell mode lvl.1 bot) its not possible to land the dodge counter attack with bleeding effect. every time i try to dodge the enemys attack i get hit. EVERY TIME.
Also the combos are way too slow. Even as Warlord its easier to combo (sure he has the powerful and unblockable chain combo) and it feels like he is much sloweer then the valyrie.
i really was thrilled to play the valkyrie as the game get released but now i think i wont touch her anymore until they "buff" her set/combo. it doesnt need a damage buff but a technical buff due to the blurry playstyle.

Yeah her deflect is really weird. It's like she has a split sec delay or something because if you dodge exactly the same moment you will always get hit. But too soon you won't block the attack. Maybe I'm bad at dodging but when I tested Orochi I didn't get this much frustration.

Also her combo is really weird. Shield charge doesn't have any good follow up except leg sweep which can be dodged and full of opening. Even though when you can land it when the opponent is exhausting, they land like 3 feets away and only follow up is the jump attack. I don't mind if she deals little dmg but at least give her a good combo ...

[Cast_1]

Her attacks are slow, and they do no damage. What little of her kit she has that are good, drains 3/4 of your stamina to acomplish, and you cant even get a heavy attack off after doing the most stamina draining cc in the game! I really rally tried, because i wanted the valk, but shes just dog****. To slow, to low damage, and the stamina drain for her special moves are just bat**** crazy.

[Torstein8]

So i really love the valkyrie but this damage .... hope she will get a buff soon.

Should this not be the case i have a resolution that makes me sad https://www.reddit.com/r/forhonor/co...e_is_only_one/

[Sykoink]

Hi all, i have tried a bit of Valkyrie this morning (never been in Alpha) and at first i really had much trouble. You can't use her combos cause are too slow and enemies can easiliy block or parry the second or the third hit. Btw after a lot of practice i think she could work even like that.
That's my "Strat":
- Poke with the dash attacks, the side attack is really good when you wait for your opponent's attack
- After a Parry (if you are not against Nobushi/Valk/Kensei) go GuardBreak, then Heavy Attack, Shield Crush, Sweep and then dash Light Attack. I know he can dodge the Sweep, but a lot realize that too late in the match.
- if you are against tank/vanguards you have to learn to deflect at least some moves for the sure damage
- Mix up a lot, you are plenty of moves, try to bring the enemy to a corner or an edge and the bomb him with headbutt and shield crush! :P

I manage to beat almost anyone when i got good with parry and deflect, the only one who gave me reeeeal trouble was a good nobushi, she is just too fast and deals like the triple of the Valk's damage and i wasn't that good at deflect/parry her.

I am not an espert, but i'll try to answer if anyone has questions.

P.S.: can anyone tell me how she was in the Alpha, and why all that crying about her? ty

thank you for the tips! I'll try them out tonight

Well, i played open Beta and i would say that my reactions are quite good.
But it seems like the Valkyries move set ist kinda buggy. even against bots (how to play -> duell mode lvl.1 bot) its not possible to land the dodge counter attack with bleeding effect. every time i try to dodge the enemys attack i get hit. EVERY TIME.
Also the combos are way too slow. Even as Warlord its easier to combo (sure he has the powerful and unblockable chain combo) and it feels like he is much sloweer then the valyrie.
i really was thrilled to play the valkyrie as the game get released but now i think i wont touch her anymore until they "buff" her set/combo. it doesnt need a damage buff but a technical buff due to the blurry playstyle.

I had exactly the same problem. I also tried practicing the Shoulder Pin move against against a lvl 1 bot but something seems off. I have pretty good reactions aswel and i play on a BenQ monitor with low input lag so this shouldn't be a problem. Sometimes it worked and a lot of the time the dodge counter attack didn't connect. It could very well be that i'm just not that good with that certain move or i don't understand the move correctly but i THINK its pretty straight forward. That move is very hard to pull off.

It's good to read that i'm not the only one having troubles with the Valkyrie. I'm not giving up on her just yet but if i really can't compete with others i will have to wait until she gets some changes

[Juuzaam]

I was so hyped to play Valk, but she realy is underwhelming. So slow, every chain can be dodged, blocked and parried easily, she deals so very few damage with an average range, while the majority of her toors cant be used without a high risk. Atm, Valk is outclassed by every other hero, just by comparing her with Nobushi everybody sees how bad she is atm

[Desperaato]

It's really funny but she's now even worse than Raider.

[Altair_Snake]

Can anyone perform her Shield Charge Cancel into GB? I tried it with many different timings and just couldn't make her do it all. I got the thrust cancle just fine. Any help is apreciated.

Thanks in advance.

[l_Azure_l]

Her deflect is way harder than parry. That should say something about it.

Can anyone perform her Shield Charge Cancel into GB? I tried it with many different timings and just couldn't make her do it all. I got the thrust cancle just fine. Any help is apreciated.

Thanks in advance.

I also have a lot of problem try to pull it of. I think you have to press dodge again then press gb right away. All in all, another move that's too hard to pull off.

Her moves are full of opening. If she misses her jump attack she can't even counter GB. Her leg sweep can be dodged is fine but why the hell it has such a long recovery time. I think it almost the longest beside the fat dude suicide hug. Her dodge attack also have really large recovery time compare to other assassins.

Though I would still main her anyway as I'm bored with Nobushi and Lawbringer just isn't my style at all but hope they would buff her a bit.

[Juuzaam]

If anyone plays Valkyrie and is pretty good, could you give me some tips on how to play as her?

In the closed and open beta i was wrecking with Kensei and Warlord and i just can't seem to do enough damage it seems. For now i'm still playing Dominion but my damage output is so low, people just eat everything i have and continue on their way. I never had so much problems trying to kill someone lol..

Waiting for a buff is a possible solution...
I feel like the dodge deflect to the sides are not working at all, same for the implemented deflects in the light attacks. Both are realy risky and not worth at all. Only the up-deflect into this heavy+ bleed is usefull, for some stylepoints and a possible followup. So, dont rely on deflects first, go for parries in the defense.
The jumping, up+light, is easy to punish, be carefull on using it.
The sidedodge + lights are not good, because of the lowdamage, but they work realy well! They also count as the first hit of their chains. So if you manage to hit the 2nd hit you get to a nice mix up. You can go for another light left/right which blinds the opp, the sweap or...a guardbreak. This isnt great at all, but it works.
Beside the dodges the shieldbash + followups are your best option to deal some damage, which can crush noobs, the noobcrushcombo looks like this:
After a guard: go for a heavy, followed by the the shieldbash, followed by the sweap, your opponent will lie on the ground and can be hit by an heavy again... which means shieldbash + combo again. So you can get like 2 heavies against a noob after a parry. Against better players you need to adept, the weak point in this is the sweap, which can be dodged. The counter for a dodge is a guardbreak. So your opponent is in a 50/50 mixup.

I personaly stay on defence for the first seconds & go for a parry and try the noobcrushercombo. If it works, i know i can abuse the up+light as well and the dodge+light combos might be an option as well. Should be obv that every nobushi i met outclassed me.

[PhIiX]

I've been maining VALK since the game came out. I'm a rep 1 with her now. She desperately needs to be buffed, in some way. I still do very well with her but I have to work three times as hard an anyone else to beat them. If I'm going against a seasoned peace maker there is no way to win what so ever. She's turned more into an assist player, and is definitely out classed in every way.