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  1. #21
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    I think it's in FULL agreement that the 1 hug KO mechanic is stupid that needs to be removed. Give me some more fighting potential in swap of the dumb 1 hit kill hug. lol

    Originally Posted by Bvisi0n. Go to original post
    So I'm a warden, I fight this Shugouki for the 6th time 1 on 1 had results on both sides of the spectrum.
    in this last battle I severely manhandle him down to 1 bar we both back off do an emote and then I go in for the kill.
    I have FULL HEALTH (or maybe about 90%).
    Shugoki does the back breaker I think okay that's gonna hurt a bit I estimate half my health gone.
    instead I am ONE SHOT.

    This should not happen I like the idea of the ability doing more damage depending on your current health but please make it a bit more consistent then this... Nobody likes to get one shot because of 1 mistake in a fight that was extremely one sided...

    That's the only problem I have with his moveset.

    I'm not going to lie that last fight was just like the Red Viper vs The Mountain.
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    Wait, people actually get caught by it the low health version? Didn't think it was possible.
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    Originally Posted by TCTF_SWAT Go to original post
    Wait, people actually get caught by it the low health version? Didn't think it was possible.
    trust me a competent player will never actual get hit and the moment it misses you're done, game over.
    anyone that gets hit by it is just bad.
    i've been playing shugoki for i think 2 days and i've hit it about 3 times
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    Originally Posted by lowkey_wana_die Go to original post
    trust me a competent player will never actual get hit and the moment it misses you're done, game over.
    anyone that gets hit by it is just bad.
    i've been playing shugoki for i think 2 days and i've hit it about 3 times
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vJq5nm-vqZw

    Proof that if the shugoki is good he can hit the grab 100% of the time. Watch 5:59. What was that orochi actually suppose to do.
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    Plenty actually.

    Get out of the corner
    feint or cancel his heavy into a dodge
    attempt to GB
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    Originally Posted by NovaEclispe1980 Go to original post
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vJq5nm-vqZw

    Proof that if the shugoki is good he can hit the grab 100% of the time. Watch 5:59. What was that orochi actually suppose to do.
    Side step to the left. lol.
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    Plus it's a high risk high reward move. On top of being slow. I mean it hurts himself for 2 bars if he whiffs it. He can't kill himself with it but you're 99% guaranteed to be punished.
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    Having played Shugoki back in the TT and now in retail, I really think that as it stands, the Goki is among the weakest heroes in duels and brawls, but really good in 4s.

    His mix-up game is incredibly shallow and he cannot open anyone really. The biggest guarantee that this class has is a parry into demon ball. He's absolutely awful if players play defensive because not only is he slow, both movement and attacks, but his mix-up game is shallow and feint-reliant (which gets expensive really quickly).

    I would trade that stupid instant-kill bear hug ANY DAY of the week for a better mix-up game and/or headbutt.
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    I actually just got killed by the critical version. It kinda forces you to be defensive only if he has his armor up.
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    Yes, I also don't need instakill but better counter against defensive opponents, and/or better dodge for escaping stunlocking.

    More research may change my opinion, but for now Shugoki's future on 1v1 looks grim.
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