PSA: Buying Steel with CASH does NOT give you any sort of an advantage. | Forums

[AveImperator85]

Ignore Mister Genji. He's the same idiot who just posted a thread claiming this game is racist because there's a Deus Vult faction but no Aloha Snackbar faction to send child suicide bombers in a game called For Honor.

[Damage_Incorp]

Great.

That still doesnt excuse microtransactions in a 60$ game

[theromanticswb]

I was referring to you, man. We're on the same side here.

Whoa. Yeah I see that now. I don't know how I managed that. I think maybe I didn't see the Quote or something. Deleted it.

[theromanticswb]

Great.

That still doesnt excuse microtransactions in a 60$ game

I mean, it kinda does right? I just explained how there's ZERO reason to purchase Steel. It gives people a way to buy cosmetics though if they are say, working moms or something that don't have as much time to save up steel for the mythic costumes.

Believe me I hate micro-transactions and wish it had never become a thing but this is the world we live in now and it's not going away. At least they did it right in this game.

[AveImperator85]

It's simple, folks. Have you ever played League of Legends? Smite? DOTA 2?

Ever buy a skin? Another rune page? An XP booster?

That's basically what buying Steel is for. Do you whine and ***** about Pay-2-Win when you see somebody with a flashy skin? No, you don't. If you do, well...you're an idiot.

[theromanticswb]

It's simple, folks. Have you ever played League of Legends? Smite? DOTA 2?

Ever buy a skin? Another rune page? An XP booster?

That's basically what buying Steel is for. Do you whine and ***** about Pay-2-Win when you see somebody with a flashy skin? No, you don't. If you do, well...you're an idiot.

Good points. I think it's even LESS egregious in For Honor.

[Mr.0reo]

Dude microtransactions in a P2P game? Where that money goes. You don't even pay a Dedicated server....

[Cipher_73]

People posting the nonsense that buying steel gives you an advantage have NOT played the game enough to understand anything about it. Here's some information for people that want the ACTUAL facts regarding how purchasing steel will function.

1. You cannot buy high level gear. PERIOD.

2. You can ONLY buy crates which give you random gear drops for that one character.

3. The drops are based on your Reputation level on that one character. *Reputation 0, level 1-6 gear (does basically nothing, all for looks really). *Reputation 1, (takes a good 10 to 15 hours of gameplay to hit) level 7-12. *Reputation 3, (takes a good 40+ hours to get to), level 13-18'ish. And so on.

4. There is matchmaking. The game tries to match you with players at similar gear levels. If someone buys as much gear as possible at say, reputation 1, they might have a total gear level of like 42'ish. they will get in matches against others with similar.

5. Gear ONLY COUNTS in 4v4 modes. It doesn't do anything 2v2's and 1v1's which is where the real competitive scene happens.

6. You get MORE THAN ENOUGH steel from leveling up (because you have to play matches and do dailies etc... to level) to fully max out your gear level for every tier anyway!!

TLDR: Buying steel is a waste of money. It doesn't do anything to make you OP because gear doesn't make you OP anyway. It's almost a placebo. Also, not really important but, the Mythic Gear you can buy with steel is just a cosmetic outfit. It has no stats. It's just for looks.


My Credentials: 90 hours of gameplay through all 3 betas. 70 hours combined for the last two. Reputation 3 and max gear in the last one.

Not to say you're wrong. But I definitely would like my information clarified.

From my brief beta on PS4, steel can be used to purchase the premium crates that drops random armor, weapons and weapon parts. If you don't like the parts, then they can be dismantled for material.

You accumulate material to upgrade gear and weapon stats. The stats affected are both offensive and defensive play. Which includes weapon damage increase.

Weapon material and steel are both used to level up each weapon/part and armor gear.

So if I buy a lot of steel, then purchase a lot of premium crates and obtain extra loot that I can use to level up gear and weapons, then the only way I could have a slight advantage would be in the 4 vs 4 matches right?

Just need some clarification. Because the servers would place me with matching gear level players in other modes.

Thanks.

[Ragnar---]

I've seen you in the other threads talking this nonsense. You have no idea what you're talking about and you obviously didn't play the game and can't read either....

Did you even read my thread at all? There is ZERO advantage from buying steel. ZERO.

If I buy Steel with real money and buy packs to get gear with statistics then I have an advantage. You seem to struggle with basic logic?.

[AveImperator85]

Not to say you're wrong. But I definitely would like my information clarified.

From my brief beta on PS4, steel can be used to purchase the premium crates that drops random armor, weapons and weapon parts. If you don't like the parts, then they can be dismantled for material.

You accumulate material to upgrade gear and weapon stats. The stats affected are both offensive and defensive play. Which includes weapon damage increase.

Weapon material and steel are both used to level up each weapon/part and armor gear.

So if I buy a lot of steel, then purchase a lot of premium crates and obtain extra loot that I can use to level up gear and weapons, then the only way I could have a slight advantage would be in the 4 vs 4 matches right?

Just need some clarification. Because the servers would place me with matching gear level players in other modes.

Thanks.

This is correct. However, it's important to note that you can only upgrade an item so far. Gray items are 1-6 and you cannot upgrade them past lvl 6. It's also important to note that items have both a bonus and a malus, so for example, this Blade may increase your Attack, but will decrease your Defense. Upgrading that blade does NOT reduce the malus, but rather amplified both the bonus and the malus, taking both to greater extremes. So yes, your fully-upgraded lvl 6 sword may hit harder than your opponents, but you'll also be taking more damage because your Defense is so low.