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  1. #21
    Originally Posted by T_Djinn_T Go to original post
    The downside there is they're now showing you can put 0 effort in and just win with only 1 turn.

    So being in the lead at any point is useless unless you're in the lead on the very last turn. Doesn't seem like a well thought out system.

    I do like the "In the lead the longest" or "Most assets deployed" personally.
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    Originally Posted by Gray360UK Go to original post
    Not really, everything I have posted is light hearted and easily taken as a gentle joke by anyone who has retained a sense of humour.
    Everyone does not share your humour. Since some people clearly is upset about the current situation, rubbing things in their faces with your 'light hearted' jokes doesn't help in the slightest.
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    The last Really turn ended at 9PM GMT. Beta ended at 10 PM GMT.
    Knights won fair and square. Vikings wanted a win for playing 1 out of 6 hours of the turn? SALTY VIKINGS!
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    Originally Posted by Sky-Sweeper Go to original post
    The knights were clearly upset about losing the closed beta but you didn't see us posting a wave of forum threads saying the vikings stole the victory.
    It was quite a different situation though. I agree that there's been unecessary whining but you can't really compare the two rounds as a few things was different. A lot of the people that are upset is because they expected somehting and something else happened. Me, I opened a cold beer thinking Vikings had won, as i expected things to be like the last test, having the map updated hours after the test. We didn't win, beer was still delicious though.

    A lot of people are being mistaken for crying about the fact that the knights won, when they're actually feeling robbed thanks to a few things. One example being that they told people to give it their all in the end when in reality it didn't even matter, they should have just declared the winner straight off.

    If we look bakc at the CB, there's not really anything the knights oculd have been upset about in a similar way. Sure, losing sucks. But back then, reality was that there was no way to come back since the vikings had 32 territories. Ubi gave hope to people in the OBT, false hope.
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  5. #25
    Originally Posted by YappysDaBeast Go to original post
    The last Really turn ended at 9PM GMT. Beta ended at 10 PM GMT.
    Knights won fair and square. Vikings wanted a win for playing 1 out of 6 hours of the turn? SALTY VIKINGS!

    The issue is not wanting to win for just a bit of a round but two-fold
    1. The devs tweeted that our final efforts would make a difference, but they didn't
    2. Only the last round counts? Wha?!?! Samurai had that whole war....

    However, playing devil's advocate I can see why only counting the last round would create some incentive for the least successful faction (whatever it ends up being) to continue to try to add assets since having the outcome determined in the first 48 hrs of a round would be disheartening.

    The real reason for the "[salt]" is the erroneous tweet by the devs and the increasingly obviousness of a not too well thought out faction war system.

    I'm cool however it turns out, I just wanna hack stuff to tiny bits. I am jut pointing out that there is an actual, factual reason for people to be salty--I'm not one of them, but I understand.
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  6. #26
    My only issue I have is the lack of communication by ubisoft on this. I mean their community is split atm and many agree that the faction war system is inherently broken. Here we sit with no input from the devs, data from them proving other wise. It juts kinda is a ****y situation. They want the basis of dlc and the seasons to have an impact on the growth and development of the game when not many have faith in the current system. We have player graphs showing a blatant correlation in time zones and player population hitting peaks at different times for when each faction has their push.


    Sam hold the nights and morning
    Knights push late morning early afternoon
    Vikings push in the evening


    It was like this in OBT, CBT, TT no real deviation from this pattern.
    You can also say it is based on the loser having asset bonuses, so that is when they push. Well, the Knights pushed after they were losing
    and had a bonus .Than the Vikings did the same thing at the end. Who is right? If the servers open at midnight and the data doesn't deviate from the established pattern does this mean samurai will win the rounds on the "last turn." Should the last turn and second to last turn be the only ones that matter the entirety of 14 days of fighting? If we look at the chats Samurai consistently hold more territory in every test.

    One tweet said you had an hour left to support your faction.
    Space elephant said the winner would be seen after the final turn was over
    There was ZERO communication that the last full round would be the last one that mattered.- This is why people are salty. Chuck
    in the fac tubisoft just deleted threads and doesn't actually talk to us about it they are just ignoring the problem. [ the fact it is being ignored is my major problem]zero communication prior to the FINAL round for ubisoft saying hey this is the last round that counts that kinda matters guys. Haveing a win be based on hindsight is asinine

    There needs to be dev communication about the faction war before it is relevant to game impact and flow. It shouldn't be too much to ask for consistency and communication it is the two major things gamers ask for.
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  7. #27
    Originally Posted by YappysDaBeast Go to original post
    The last Really turn ended at 9PM GMT. Beta ended at 10 PM GMT.
    Knights won fair and square. Vikings wanted a win for playing 1 out of 6 hours of the turn? SALTY VIKINGS!
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  8. #28
    Originally Posted by ReReminiscence Go to original post
    My only issue I have is the lack of communication by ubisoft on this. I mean their community is split atm and many agree that the faction war system is inherently broken. Here we sit with no input from the devs, data from them proving other wise. It juts kinda is a ****y situation. They want the basis of dlc and the seasons to have an impact on the growth and development of the game when not many have faith in the current system. We have player graphs showing a blatant correlation in time zones and player population hitting peaks at different times for when each faction has their push.


    Sam hold the nights and morning
    Knights push late morning early afternoon
    Vikings push in the evening


    It was like this in OBT, CBT, TT no real deviation from this pattern.
    You can also say it is based on the loser having asset bonuses, so that is when they push. Well, the Knights pushed after they were losing and had a bonus . Than the Vikings did the same thing at the end. Who is right? If the servers open at midnight and the data doesn't deviate from the established pattern does this mean samurai will win the rounds on the "last turn." Should the last turn and second to last turn be the only ones that matter the entirety of 14 days of fighting? If we look at the chats Samurai consistently hold more territory in every test.


    There needs to be dev communication about the faction war before it is relevant to game impact and flow. It shouldn't be too much to ask for consistency and communication it is the two major things gamers ask for.
    I totally agree, something has to be done to fix this, otherwise it behooves the leading (or dominant) faction to just stop playing for one or two round previous to the final round so they can garner the bonus and make a push with it.
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  9. #29
    Originally Posted by ReReminiscence Go to original post
    My only issue I have is the lack of communication by ubisoft on this. I mean their community is split atm and many agree that the faction war system is inherently broken. Here we sit with no input from the devs, data from them proving other wise. It juts kinda is a ****y situation. They want the basis of dlc and the seasons to have an impact on the growth and development of the game when not many have faith in the current system. We have player graphs showing a blatant correlation in time zones and player population hitting peaks at different times for when each faction has their push.


    Sam hold the nights and morning
    Knights push late morning early afternoon
    Vikings push in the evening


    It was like this in OBT, CBT, TT no real deviation from this pattern.
    You can also say it is based on the loser having asset bonuses, so that is when they push. Well, the Knights pushed after they were losing and had a bonus . Than the Vikings did the same thing at the end. Who is right? If the servers open at midnight and the data doesn't deviate from the established pattern does this mean samurai will win the rounds on the "last turn." Should the last turn and second to last turn be the only ones that matter the entirety of 14 days of fighting? If we look at the chats Samurai consistently hold more territory in every test.

    One tweet said you had an hour left to support your faction.
    Space elephant said the winner would be seen after the final turn was over
    There was ZERO communication that the last full round would be the last one that mattered.- This is why people are salty. Chuck in the fact ubisoft just deleted threads and doesn't actually talk to us about it they are just ignoring the problem. [ the fact it is being ignored is my major problem]

    There needs to be dev communication about the faction war before it is relevant to game impact and flow. It shouldn't be too much to ask for consistency and communication it is the two major things gamers ask for.
    ^

    rn it's like the devs do stuff and then let the community figure everything out on their own (which obviously doesnt work, because there are too many people with more or less different opinions).
    They say "yaya we read all the things so just keep posting to keep us informed" yet nothing changes....
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  10. #30
    Originally Posted by T_Djinn_T Go to original post
    Technical Test - Last round counted - Vikings winning before and after - Congrats Vikings
    Closed Beta - Last round counted - Vikings winning before and after - Congrats Vikings


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    Open Beta - Last round didn't count - Knights winning before Vikings winning after - Congrats Vikings... Wait... They say keep fighting because it counts. And don't count it. But did for every previous iteration... Well congrats Knights on being given a victory by the devs. You "almost" earned it. Sorry vikings your 3-0 w/l in the faction war gets you nothing!

    TL;DR Samurai where you at?

    They probably posted that tweet 2 hours before, it just had to make its way through peer to peer connections to make it out lol. Either way, boo hook, it's a digital emblem. If that's your biggest worry in the world right now, consider yourself lucky.
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