How to negate the "Never Attack First" Meta | Forums

[Ryumanjisen]

you learn the timing to parry and go for it. if you're wrong and get baited into swinging, you mash E to feint. You can definitely parry and counter-guard break on reaction though

So, using fighting games terminology, you can basically "option select" a parry and a feint.

I feared as much. This game need some adjustments as soon as they can make a patch.

[Ezcendant]

So, using fighting games terminology, you can basically "option select" a parry and a feint.

Yes, yes you can.

[nestharus]

You know how I negated it? I switched to Warden. Problem solved. Every match is now a guessing match, but that's better than a staring contest : D, even if I only have a 33% chance to win the guess against Orochi, Berserker, Kensei, and Peacekeeper.

[Jinresh]

You know how I negated it? I switched to Warden. Problem solved. Every match is now a guessing match, but that's better than a staring contest : D, even if I only have a 33% chance to win the guess against Orochi, Berserker, Kensei, and Peacekeeper.

What does a Warden have to do defensive play?

[Pariah695]

I assume you mean what does he have to beat defensice play. A real mix- up. Shoulder bash.

Shoulder bash, get free damage. They dodge it, cancel into guard break, get free damage. If they have a dodge attack, cancel, parry, get free damage.

Congrats folks, at high level play For Honor turns into straight up rock, paper, scissors. Ubisoft, fix your broken game.

[Vakris_One]

Forgot to mention that the hyper-passive "top tier" meta players will watch you spam feint for days. Sorry, but feinting is void when it is 100% predictable.

Also, unpredictable feinting doesn't exist, so that counter-argument is also void.

These kind of statements lead me to believe you have little to no clue as to what you are talking about. Faking out someone who uses parries is 100% possible. If they don't get faked out then they are usually just prepared to block you, which means you go in for the guardbreak on them. You always have options for everything in this game's combat system.

Please learn the tactics and how/when to employ them before writing ill informed nonsense.

[Vakris_One]

https://www.twitch.tv/videos/121546322

It is 100% true that "defensive" play is invincible.

If me and Eiffel simply perfect this, and go into the next tournement, we can literally ruin the tournament by making every game a Tie. So the tournament never moves forward. You are literally invincible in For Honor if you play correctly and don't attack. Attacking is risky, defending is 100% safe.

Lol. False hyperbolic statements.

I would love to meet you in game and have you try to beat me only using defense.

[Ryumanjisen]

These kind of statements lead me to believe you have little to no clue as to what you are talking about. Faking out someone who uses parries is 100% possible. If they don't get faked out then they are usually just prepared to block you, which means you go in for the guardbreak on them. You always have options for everything in this game's combat system.

Please learn the tactics and how/when to employ them before writing ill informed nonsense.

If you go for the guardbreak, they can react and counter it. If you go for a light or a heavy, they can react and block. If they doesn't parry, you can't bait it with a feint.

I'm curious. You've seen Flatlander's video: what will you do to break that Warden's defense?

[Pariah695]

If you go for the guardbreak, they can react and counter it. If you go for a light or a heavy, they can react and block. If they doesn't parry, you can't bait it with a feint.

I'm curious. You've seen Flatlander's video: what will you do to break that Warden's defense?

Feint into an unreactable attack like Warden's zone attack. That will eventually(almost immediately) stop working. Then see my earlier post about the Warden's shoulder bash.

[Jinresh]

Feint into an unreactable attack like Warden's zone attack. That will eventually(almost immediately) stop working. Then see my earlier post about the Warden's shoulder bash.

Except the video is an Orochi... without a shoulder bash.