How to negate the "Never Attack First" Meta | Forums

[Arnaldo27]

https://www.twitch.tv/videos/121546322

It is 100% true that "defensive" play is invincible.

If me and Eiffel simply perfect this, and go into the next tournement, we can literally ruin the tournament by making every game a Tie. So the tournament never moves forward. You are literally invincible in For Honor if you play correctly and don't attack. Attacking is risky, defending is 100% safe.

1- The Warden refused to attack. If he would have attacked his defense would be a lot worse.
2- Nerfing parry won't change anything about this.
3- How do you suggest to fix this "issue"?. I can't think anything without destroying the whole game and making assassin classes unstoppable.

[Arnaldo27]

I just watched this video and this dude never fights anyone good, i searched the whole thing and never found him once fighting an assassin that knew what they were doing or did this dodge attack ****. So your point is invalid.

Yes, I suppose you are not in the leaderboards just because you have bad luck and only face skilled players.

Anyway, maybe I'm wrong but I would like to see a top player complaining about defense is too strong. I can't find your names in the leaderboards:

http://forums.ubi.com/showthread.php...mp-2-All-Modes

[ThePollie]

If your opponent is hyper-defensive, bait him with a feint and rapid misdirections. If you just go in handing him free parries, you deserve to die.

[GregoryMcFlint]

If your opponent is hyper-defensive, bait him with a feint and rapid misdirections. If you just go in handing him free parries, you deserve to die.

Forgot to mention that the hyper-passive "top tier" meta players will watch you spam feint for days. Sorry, but feinting is void when it is 100% predictable.

Also, unpredictable feinting doesn't exist, so that counter-argument is also void.

Reading is hard!

[Ryumanjisen]

https://www.twitch.tv/videos/121546322

It is 100% true that "defensive" play is invincible.

If me and Eiffel simply perfect this, and go into the next tournement, we can literally ruin the tournament by making every game a Tie. So the tournament never moves forward. You are literally invincible in For Honor if you play correctly and don't attack. Attacking is risky, defending is 100% safe.

I'm starting to think this can be possible. I fought a guy with really godd reflexes and there was no way I could break his defense. As long as he ate a couple of parrys thanks to my feinst, he just stopped to parry ans resorted only to block and guard break.

I can think of only one solution: make the guard break impossible to counter on reaction, just like in any "classic" fighting game: yo can't tech a throw in Street Fighter on reaction, you have to commit to it.

[Afius]

Guard breaking is an option for the never attacking people especially if you back them into a wall the wall stun will give some good damage.

[Stankyfoot]

So, remove the reason to parry? If someone is trying to parry you, feint and then punish their parry attempt.

[Ryumanjisen]

Guard breaking is an option for the never attacking people especially if you back them into a wall the wall stun will give some good damage.

Yeah, but a guy with enough reflexes can counter it on reaction. You try to attack me? I just block. You try to GB me? I just counter GB. And the duel ends on a tie.

[Stankyfoot]

If theres one thing that will prevent this from becoming too much of an issue (besides feints and unblockables) is the fact that it requires someone to want to get very good at the game but have no intention of ever winning. Who really thinks like that?

[Afius]

Yeah, but a guy with enough reflexes can counter it on reaction. You try to attack me? I just block. You try to GB me? I just counter GB. And the duel ends on a tie.

If he's gb on reaction you're not doing a good job on pressuring him or are being too predictable. Maybe a feint to guard break will be a good strategy. I haven't had a consistent problem with people countering my gb.