Why is Orochi so bad? | Forums

[Wowwee11]

I hope players with less then 20 hours into play combined do not bother responding into this thread.

While it is true that Orochi has insanely low hp compared to the damage it does, he has a mobility kit to compensate for it. Its a bit of a shame though, that gap closing is generally useless after renown one since Orochis gap closing attacks are so telegraphic you can parry them all day long without ever taking a sweat. Getting 3 parries into Kensei and bringing his hp 50% down only to loose 75% of your own after a single lost parry is, however, not very nice. This is including the fact, that orochi top guard break finisher is one of the most damaging moves out there.

Overall it is R\P\S in terms of class play again. Some classes have advantage over others and since defensive (or wary at least for peacekeepers) playstyles are the only ones left for engame, it is generally "who can better defend against whom" scenario.

However Orochi could use some poke move for scrapping turtle players much more effectively. Zone attack is nice and all, but thats sorta the only one out there and it takes quite a lot of stamina. It buzzles me to the core that warden have faster(special) top fast attack too . So he can poke you while turtling much more effectively then you can poke him.

Though you can have your comebacks against conquerors in semi-open field, raiders and nobushi.

But with the release of the Shinobi class that, where does the orochi even fit in for honor anymore. I've played for honor non stop for the past 2 days and have no seen a SINGLE OROCHI, besides myself

[psyminion]

But with the release of the Shinobi class that, where does the orochi even fit in for honor anymore. I've played for honor non stop for the past 2 days and have no seen a SINGLE OROCHI, besides myself

I play on ps4 myself, and I am shunning the button-pressing of the shinobi and sticking with my rep 16 roach. I think the way he fights. the orochi fits me.


I have seen a fair share of other high rep orochi on the battlefield too.

what system do you play on?

[Serious_Ludd]

Well, in my opinion, Orochi is still a good character. Maybe a small opener could be cool, but otherwise, he's fine.

[CaynAldan]

Orochi needs some love (confirmed by devs). It's not a bad character, but it isn't in level with the WL, who is said to be the standard. Main problem is Orochi has been designed around deflect system at it's a bit useless at this moment. That's why its UB are ripostes from deflect.

Orochi need a proper opener or a better way of counter-attack

For example, making storm rush UB would be a good way to do that, giving a way to closing gap and counter-attack more effective, but very punishable, being sturm rush so telegraphed. But this is only a example.

Remember: Warlord is the standard of hero perfomance said by Dev, so we'll probably see a lot of changes after defence rework

[Grinzzer62]

That why I suggest a quick light jab that goes through defenses but is dodgeable

[l8knight347]

The only reason the orochi is bad is because he heavies are too slow. they should be faster and do LESS damage.

[CaynAldan]

The only reason the orochi is bad is because he heavies are too slow. they should be faster and do LESS damage.

i think orochi heavy damage it's the only reason it can win many fights. What I miss for that is side light speed and light > heavy combo

[surr3a1]

Orochi doesn't have an opener, one would assume that it is pretty damn obvious for everyone to see.

The people talking about conter attacker - what the hell do you counter attack against 50% of the heroes which have super fast unblockables in your face. Stop talking BS! You may be viable against the other heroes like PK/Kensei/Orochi but against the others this class is ****!

And I am not even talking about the Centurion here which is probably 5 times stronger than orochi.

What all you people who speak total crap here can't seem to grasp in your minds: one mistake we do and we are finished while the others can do several mistakes in a round and don't get absolutely any punishment (like dodge shinobi kick and not being able to punish him - what kind of stupid *** UBI morons have to develop this?).

Orochi is garbage!

[Serious_Ludd]

Orochi doesn't have an opener, one would assume that it is pretty damn obvious for everyone to see.

The people talking about conter attacker - what the hell do you counter attack against 50% of the heroes which have super fast unblockables in your face. Stop talking BS! You may be viable against the other heroes like PK/Kensei/Orochi but against the others this class is ****!

And I am not even talking about the Centurion here which is probably 5 times stronger than orochi.

What all you people who speak total crap here can't seem to grasp in your minds: one mistake we do and we are finished while the others can do several mistakes in a round and don't get absolutely any punishment (like dodge shinobi kick and not being able to punish him - what kind of stupid *** UBI morons have to develop this?).

Orochi is garbage!

Orochis are pretty powerful against cents. The only thing you have to do is litterally dodge their kick or they heavies, which is pretty easy, and you get a free hit with the strafe attack.
Plus, top light is pretty good, because centurion is not really that fast.

And yes, i'm an Orochi main

[Weird_Eagle]

Maybee make the stormrush a bit faster or give him super armor?
When i have a enemy that attacks me i can play my counterrole perfectly, than is orochi realy nice to play.
But how to counter a counterattacker?
Right! Dont attack him, just block and fish for a parry.
When the turttle meta gets fixed i think orochi will be better then yet