Warden Shoulder-bash cancel into guard-break | Forums

[CairoTheCat]

Please fix this ubi, i don't care if its a real mechanic, it's impossible to counteract which means it's broken. Shoulder-bash cancel is seriously overpowered.

[AviiD.]

It's ez to counter if you know how to do it [Insert generic git gud quote]

[thoralexsson]

Please fix this ubi, i don't care if its a real mechanic, it's impossible to counteract which means it's broken. Shoulder-bash cancel is seriously overpowered.

roll backwards , *******.

[DrExtrem]

Shoulder bash has such a long warm up, that you can basically get a fresh coffee, before you are hit.

Try the zone attack or a single fast attack. Or ... Side step.

[eliteslayer66]

Please fix this ubi, i don't care if its a real mechanic, it's impossible to counteract which means it's broken. Shoulder-bash cancel is seriously overpowered.

maybe i misunderstand. How does it work? If its a guard break than counter guardbreak it.

[E-A-X]

I get what he means, its that if you dodge sidewards you will get guardbroken because you are still in the action (the dodge) you cant counteract to the guardbreak, while if you would roll backwards you throw out your entire stamina and just you are punished for doing that.

But if shoulderbash is comboed on close range you wont be able to dodge it, cuz its like a headbutt, if you could manage to dodge, because you did guard the attack in the first, then its the warden decision to either fake a shoulderbash or do it actually - doesnt have to be fully charged after all.


What im trying to do when i notice these things on a warden is just zone attack spam, go on distance zone attack - be cheaper than the shoulderbash spammer.

[eliteslayer66]

Too bad there isn't much to use on the warden.

[ThePollie]

Too bad there isn't much to use on the warden.

Sadly. This is one of the only things we really have going for us.

[D_cover]

Sadly. This is one of the only things we really have going for us.

That quick slash combo gets me every time.

[Odin_Ironhide]

I get what he means, its that if you dodge sidewards you will get guardbroken because you are still in the action (the dodge) you cant counteract to the guardbreak, while if you would roll backwards you throw out your entire stamina and just you are punished for doing that.

But if shoulderbash is comboed on close range you wont be able to dodge it, cuz its like a headbutt, if you could manage to dodge, because you did guard the attack in the first, then its the warden decision to either fake a shoulderbash or do it actually - doesnt have to be fully charged after all.


What im trying to do when i notice these things on a warden is just zone attack spam, go on distance zone attack - be cheaper than the shoulderbash spammer.

I play as a Warlord and i run into this problem. my light attack is too slow to interrupt the charge and If he is doing the cancel into guardbreak i cannot stop it. if you sidestep he automatically gets a guardbreak, if you dont sidestep he will get the bash and the attack off.

I also find it odd that if i happen to sidestep the charge and guard break him right after, he can cancel my guard break. You would think there would be some sort of penalty for missing the unblockable. I mean, if i side step a heavy I get a free guardbreak, should be the same with an unblockable shoulder bash.