Kensei doesn't need a damage buff, what he needs is more combos. | Forums

[iHunny]

I just wanted to +1 the OP,

I see a lot of advice for kensei basically boiling down to mastering feints, parries, counter attacking in general. But that's basically just saying "become an extremely good player and kensei is viable", doing the same thing on any other class without the pitfalls of kensei would essentially yield the same results just better since your kit has more.

Yeah, you have no true connecters after a heavy parry.

What he needs is a safer option to attack. All oponent have to do is turtle, parry and use there own safer options, like a fast light attack, something Kensei do not have.

[INRAGEDPlatypus]

For the parrying types: Helm splitter > Light attack > Heavy Top finisher cancel into light side or heavy side unblockable if you're feeling lucky.

Also, guard break throw into walls to land heavy unblockable.

Kensei's apparent predictability can play in your favor if you throw in these kinds of mixups.

you nailed it, kensei has the ability to chain to GB after dodging and then heavy top finish after a throw. crucial to maximizing his potential

[iHunny]

Do Kensei have any respond after he parries heavy attack? As example, Nobushi can get a free guardbreak, Berserker can start his chain, Orochi gets free high light attacks to just mention a few, but I have yet to find anything in Kensei parrying a heavy attack. Have I mist something obvious?

[guor6800]

I'm a Kensei main. I only play Kensei and i can tell you that the reason why Kensei is under performing is because he has no combos. When you learn his 2 combos is the easiest hero to counter. His finisher is so slow that you can always parry it 10 times out of 10. When you get to higher levels and you only play with good players is nearly impossible to win because its super easy to counter. Its frustrating knowing that you cant do anything if they can counter every combo that Kensei has.

As a kensei main and having over 70 hours of playing time with the char I can safely say that you're wrong man. Kensei is a beast if you know the handles. Just initiate with side dodge + light attack and chain it in every possible way. Also 2 hit combos and dodge back to maintain your superior range proved really effective. The last thing is mastering the altering of the heavy unblockable to a side uninteraptable. If he doesn't read it there's no possible way of not landing the attack. Cheers!

[DrinkinMyStella]

I also play kensei only. His long range makes feints the best way to use him, i tend to break their guard then use his unbreakable moves but feint at the last min and hit from the side with a strong attack, no one seems to predict that.

[Joehson]

I'm a Kensei main. I only play Kensei and i can tell you that the reason why Kensei is under performing is because he has no combos. When you learn his 2 combos is the easiest hero to counter. His finisher is so slow that you can always parry it 10 times out of 10. When you get to higher levels and you only play with good players is nearly impossible to win because its super easy to counter. Its frustrating knowing that you cant do anything if they can counter every combo that Kensei has.

Honestly ive been playing Kensei since closed beta and I love how he plays! I have a 3.3 Overall KDA and hes the only hero I use, or have over level 10 at least..
I'm 4 levels from rep 3 and run through most games now with under 5 deaths a match and average around 12-20 kills. People just need to practice and learn what works well.. Hes good at applying preasure with his dashing light attacks and dashing gaurd break. plus his unblockable can be switched to a sweeping side attack at the last second. hes a great hero and needs no nerfs or buffs. In my opinion everything is fine where it is this game just needs to fix its server issues

Yesterday I clutched a skrimish match 1 vs 5 killed and orochi, arrowed another guy finished him off, popped my unlockable killed 2 more guys and used my lower attack and defense debuff on a guy last gut and tore right through him with dashing strikes and gaurd breaks.. hes a great hero & i think people need to spend a good week playing a hero before they can say anything cause as soon as someone gets beat its cheap or that hero needs a nerf or mine needs a buff.. i believe none of that and have seen people already master most of the heroes and have seen some insanely skilled people. you juts gotta put in the time and figure out every heroes weekness and strength and play to those

[King_.-Crimson]

As a kensei main and having over 70 hours of playing time with the char I can safely say that you're wrong man. Kensei is a beast if you know the handles. Just initiate with side dodge + light attack and chain it in every possible way. Also 2 hit combos and dodge back to maintain your superior range proved really effective. The last thing is mastering the altering of the heavy unblockable to a side uninteraptable. If he doesn't read it there's no possible way of not landing the attack. Cheers!

>just initiate with one of the easiest attacks to parry

stopped reading there

[Ryumanjisen]

For the parrying types: Helm splitter > Light attack > Heavy Top finisher cancel into light side or heavy side unblockable if you're feeling lucky.

Also, guard break throw into walls to land heavy unblockable.

Kensei's apparent predictability can play in your favor if you throw in these kinds of mixups.

Kensei doesn't have mixups outside is top heavy finisher. At high level, you've no literally no tools to initiate. The helm splitter can be easily parried if the opponent is good enough. Your only chance is feinting, but it's risky.

The Kensei, indeed, does not need a damage buff. He needs a way to be able to open his opponent.

[FutTheWuk]

Okay so I like many others in this thread am a Kensei main. Though unlike the other Kensei mains here who are going "WUT? KENSEI ARE THE GREATEST! YOU JUST NEED TO GIT GUD! DO MORE THANGS" I'm going to say that OP is right, Kensei has massive glaring weakness that are still there even at high level play and even when you use him to his full potential. I side dash, I feint, I using my top unblockable, combo and much more, yet all it takes for a skill opponent to beat me is for them to turtle up and wait for any of my attacks, since they all leave Kensei WIDE OPEN for counter attack.

To the guy who said:

Honestly ive been playing Kensei since closed beta and I love how he plays! I have a 3.3 Overall KDA and hes the only hero I use, or have over level 10 at least..
I'm 4 levels from rep 3 and run through most games now with under 5 deaths a match and average around 12-20 kills. People just need to practice and learn what works well.. Hes good at applying pressure with his dashing light attacks and dashing guard break. plus his unblockable can be switched to a sweeping side attack at the last second.

You should know that your K/D ratio doesn't say much about your skill, If I was playing dominion all day yeah I could push a much higher K/D but in duels, where people focus harder, have no distraction and tend to be more competitive, Kensei gets outclassed, even if you play him at his full potential.

[DrinkinMyStella]

Okay so I like many others in this thread am a Kensei main. Though unlike the other Kensei mains here who are going "WUT? KENSEI ARE THE GREATEST! YOU JUST NEED TO GIT GUD! DO MORE THANGS" I'm going to say that OP is right, Kensei has massive glaring weakness that are still there even at high level play and even when you use him to his full potential. I side dash, I feint, I using my top unblockable, combo and much more, yet all it takes for a skill opponent to beat me is for them to turtle up and wait for any of my attacks, since they all leave Kensei WIDE OPEN for counter attack.

To the guy who said:



You should know that your K/D ratio doesn't say much about your skill, If I was playing dominion all day yeah I could push a much higher K/D but in duels, where people focus harder, have no distraction and tend to be more competitive, Kensei gets outclassed, even if you play him at his full potential.

I play a lot of 1v1 and in 1v1 duels my KD is a 2.8 with kensei, not many can out class me because its about who is behind the controller