How to punish Nobushi???! | Forums

[ExSiNz]

For your info if you play the Conqueror you can start a Shield Bash Charge from about 5 meter and still hit her, Then you get a free light-attack then you guardbard into another free light-attack to be able to start another shield bash rinse and repeat and you won. Conqueror Shield Bash and Warden's shoulder Bash outrange Nobushi Spears.

[Da_HalfBlood1]

How do you punish a Nobushi player? Their range is so big they can't be punished at all! If I parry their attack I can't followup with anything besides sweep attack (Playing Knight), but that does poor damage and isnt enough to finish them off at low hp. All while for every parry i receive I get punished with a heavy attack.

Not to mention their attack speed is insanely fast.

How to puinsh them for parrying??

Nobushi is not overpowered, maybe against noobs since they usually don't dodge and parry. Pulling off a parry can sometimes be difficult so punishing someone for parrying is wrong. Parries punish players who just decide to go in and attack nonstop without a second thought to what they are doing or to punish risky play.

Nobushi's attacks only go forward, she only has one slash attack (besides her zoning attack) and it is a heavy attack so its pretty slow. Her attacks are slower than all the assassins so even if she gets a hidden stance off when an assassin is in her face, the assassins can keep on going all out on her if they are close enough. Both heavies counter her very well with the shield. They force nobushi to get in close which is not what she wants.

Dodging her attacks with a side dash is a good start and then breaking her block when you get in close. She is a zoner so she is meant to keep you away but if you are fast enough you should be able to easily dodge her attacks which are even slower than the knight warden. She is not even close to op and is also hard to master.

[Zantet5u]

My advice as someone who has been playing her for open beta is to go to custom games, make a lvl 3 warden bot (or the class you play) and then pick nobushi. I guarantee you will learn how to overwhelm her as whatever class but i particularly find warden to be special.

[DaWeirdWAAAGH]

Every game 2 peacekeeper or 2 nobushi . Difficult hard = ubisoft logic
No need skill to play this classes. Spam 1 unbalance combo for win.
Just make difficult easy and no one will compline about unbalanced class.

[MinaX-LorD]

Nobushi is not powerful. She is extremely vulnerable to side steps (which need to be nerfed) and if you get in close, there is pretty much nothing she can do besides parrying you, or creating distance again. I thought she was broken when I first played the game, now I main her, and a realize that she has some extreme weak points. I play Nobushi a lot more aggressively and I will get in someones face because of the technique I developed, but once I make a mistake at that close range, a good player will punish me HARD.

Also, getting someones back against the wall in this game is a game changer. Its no different for Nobushi.

[Altair_Snake]

If your character doesn't have a side stepping atatck, you just gotta side step more than once, during her combo.

And she not the only one who tend sto be out of grab's reach after being parried. The Kensei also does.

She is a character you need to face ina very different way from the others. So, she can easily seem OP, at first. And if you don't use her you'll hardly feel how crippling her weakness to side steps is.

[KnifeInUrNeck]

I play Orochi and I play fairly well. I win the majority of my duels and do well on team matches. Mastering the art of overcoming ranges means knowing yours and their move sets or at least their style. A lot of characters have lunges or charges to get in close. I don't go for the party against fast characters but the deflect as the speed of dodge closely lines up with nobushi attack speed so I end up getting deflects naturally. That said, a good nobushi is tough but squishy. If you're playing a slow character with not a lot of defense, it might just be a bad matchup. Shields annoy assassins but when dealing with Nobushi get in close or you lose. If you fight them at their optimal range, it won't end well. Just block the light attacks as a lot of time they come from the same direction.

[Timjan]

So the only way to punish a parry playing vs Nobushi is to get a bit closer to her?? How is that balanced?

If you have a teaspoon, and they have a shovel, you need to get closer then your opponent to hit them.
Is it easy? Nope, but its the only way.
Preasure, zoning, get in close is how you beat them. If your passive and only blocking vs a nobushi youll never get to them and sooner or later you mess up and they get in a hit here and a hit there. Better take a few hits on you and chase them aggressive into smaller ground where they are punished pretty hard depending on your class.
Block as much as can can, dodge but you must get in close.
New to the game, playing warden. Had 2 Noobushis leave the game cause they didnt know how to handle me zoning them. They are used to sit there jabbing freely vs helpless people trying to figure out what to do.
A good offense is most often the best defence. VS a Nobushi this holds very true.
They are also very very squishy compared to our knight, which I assume is a warden, and wardens are really strong vs nobushis due to shoulderdash., shoulderbash, not sure what the heck its called. Just forward or side dodge and hold the dash a little longer for longer dash, once your in, perform a zone attack, it has long reach and very very hard to block. At this point they wonder what happened, dodge, shoulder bash in, perform a double LA, and a shoulderbash, at which point your stamina is pretty drained so take a sec to recover but dont loose momentum, focus on LA. Wardens Top LA is very very fast and very hard to block or anticipate, its the fastest LA of warden, apart from side LA 2nd hit which is anyway unblockable. Once your in that zone they are uncomfortable unless hyper top player, and they too will be uncomfortable cause your within their comfort zone, and you do far more damage then a Nobushi on your warden.

If you have problems, do a custom game, set bot to Nobushi, set skill level to 3, and practice. That Bot will be better then high level players, just not top of the pops.
Just dont use level 1 or 2 cause they really dont do much, but at lvl 3, its advanced mode on and their Timing is to a T. Great sparring partners vs the champs you have a hard time beating.
Why use friends when you can get bots that probably is better This game has all the training tools necessary for you.
Most people go Bot game in the warzone, 1vsal, thats a level 1 AL, and you learn nothing. So far only in Custom games have I seen you able to set AL to level 3.
Edit: I believe in Training mode you can set that as well but not sure if they still attack or they just start to parry, block you, didnt try it. Need to do this as I personally must practice vs Oroshi, a good Oroshi slice me up, I need to learn how to counter that.
Peace out.

PS: IF you play warden, and GET close to a Nobushi, note the have ALOT of High attacks.
Perform a top LA when they do any top attack to perform a massive damage counter.. That said I tend to mainly use it vs zerkers, Oroshi, kensai cause so far Nobushis in close quarters tend to rely on other attacks or try o get away from you. And the times you block their High attack its usually out of reach for your counter so just block. Anyway....
Have fun