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  1. #11
    Originally Posted by ThePollie Go to original post
    I did watch it and I even played it. The fact some praise this game as potential Game of the Year doesn't stop it from be a mediocre let-down. This game is an abomination, an outright insult to Ghost Recon, its fans, and the gaming community at large for just how much Ubisoft bragged would be in this game and then wasn't.

    Siege is a terrible Rainbow6 game, but at least it can hold up on its own merits separate from the brand. Wildlands can't even say that.
    You are seriously out of sync dear Pollie. Calling Siege a terrible Rainbow6 game is just stupid. Besides that, its a great game with a huge fanbase.

    And You call WIldlands mediocre, but isnt that due to your own sky high expectations? I will say that this game does not create anything new or groundbreaking thats for sure. But it does have a fantastic open world, solid gameplay and all the ingredients to make it a tactical masterpiece aswell - You just have to mix it yourself.

    I do get that it is not very Ghost Reacony that you can approach the mission how you like - But I don't see how giving more freedom can be a bad thing at all?
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    People need to stop jumping on the hype train and take off the rose tinted glasses. Wildlands in its current state couldn't be further away from being ready for release. There is a lot of work that needs to be done and it needs another year at least before they even consider it being even anywhere near close.

    The open world of Wildlands is perhaps its only saving grace at the moment, you can have a huge beautiful map with all the bells and whistles but if core mechanics are tossed aside in favour of making something look pretty this game will be forgotten fast
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    Solid gameplay? Bodies are simply deleted, rather than effecting gameplay, despite developer's own emphasis on the need to hide them.
    Civilians have ZERO effect on gameplay, even them running away screaming did not alert the guard they run right by.

    If my standards are "too high" to be "in sync" with the new generation of gaming, then I sure as hell don't want to be paired with the likes of you. And, yeah, Siege is a terrible Rainbow6 game. Go download Raven Shield or even Rogue Spear and see how the two games compare to Siege. The difference is staggering, and if it weren't for Rainbow6 being in the title, I'd have never suspected Siege as being part of the brand.
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    Originally Posted by Enzio_Enzio Go to original post
    People need to stop jumping on the hype train and take off the rose tinted glasses. Wildlands in its current state couldn't be further away from being ready for release. There is a lot of work that needs to be done and it needs another year at least before they even consider it being even anywhere near close.

    The open world of Wildlands is perhaps its only saving grace at the moment, you can have a huge beautiful map with all the bells and whistles but if core mechanics are tossed aside in favour of making something look pretty this game will get forgotten fast
    Yes there is work to be done. For sure. But lots of people is enjoying the game, and even though I think we all can agree it needs some tuning, calling for delay is just your opinion. Just as many does not see it how you do. Its a damn solid game as it is.

    Originally Posted by ThePollie Go to original post
    Solid gameplay? Bodies are simply deleted, rather than effecting gameplay, despite developer's own emphasis on the need to hide them.
    Civilians have ZERO effect on gameplay, even them running away screaming did not alert the guard they run right by.

    If my standards are "too high" to be "in sync" with the new generation of gaming, then I sure as hell don't want to be paired with the likes of you. And, yeah, Siege is a terrible Rainbow6 game. Go download Raven Shield or even Rogue Spear and see how the two games compare to Siege. The difference is staggering, and if it weren't for Rainbow6 being in the title, I'd have never suspected Siege as being part of the brand.
    Bodies are deleted - Yes, thats not right. But seriously. You think this is hard to change for the developers? Bet its a matter of changing one or two digits in the code.

    - Civilians doesnt have an effect on gameplay - You are right there too. But is that really such a big problem? Since you can't kill civilians without gameover, it would make the game incredible hard if it was you against the whole world.

    - Pollie you are just afraid of changes. This is how the just world works. Look around you. Trumph as president, its getting hotter and hotter, and ghost recon goes open world. Why does everything have to be like they use to be? Look, I dont think this game is perfect. far from it! There is lots of things I hope they change before the game releases.

    Like, make Ghost difficulty a lot harder by putting a limit on drones, no on-the-fly changing of gear, make the HUD even more customizable, make the AI much more aware and I could go on. But that doesnt change the fact that I still like the game how it is now - I can only see it get better by each new build.
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    We are a month from release. A MONTH from release. Nothing is going to change, this game has already gone Gold, probably even as far back as December.

    The animations were choppy six months ago and, shocker, weren't fixed before the Beta.
    All of the missions are bland, repetitive "go here, kill/interrogate him, move on".
    They might be able to polish the driving, but that's about it. The physics will still be garbage.
    The AI, both enemy and ally, is utter trash. This isn't a "quick fix in a day-1 patch".

    And a quick "one or two digits in code"? They never even programed a way to hide bodies. Even if they made bodies persistent, they never gave the player the tools to deal with this.

    I am fine with change, when it's for the better. This game has shown me nothing in the way of change that isn't a step backwards, at best. Ubisoft went Open World with Ghost Recon as a selling point, but never put any depth into the feature. Freedom of choice? Camo has no effect on gameplay, so your "choice" to wear anything means nothing. The "living, breathing world" they gloated about in literally every video? An empty promise. Civilians are lifeless and even killing them has no impact on the world. Guards mindlessly patrol between point A and point B, never even stopping to take a piss break. Maybe one or two in a camp will go and lay down all night, but even that's just forced for the sake of preserving the image.

    This game had a lot of potential, and ultimately the only thing it has to show for years of development is as much depth as a child's swimming pool.
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    Lets just agree to disagree

    We will see how it turns out on march 7. Bet you will still be around here by then anyway
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    Oh, to hell with that. Agreeing to disagree is a pansy response. I challenge you to explain why you think I'm wrong. Nail down every point in this game and explain why it's a good thing and why I'm wrong. I have not seen one person to praise this game do just that. You all talk about how great this game is, but never go into detail as to why it's so great, and I want to see someone at least try.
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  8. #18
    Originally Posted by ThePollie Go to original post
    Oh, to hell with that. Agreeing to disagree is a pansy response. I challenge you to explain why you think I'm wrong. Nail down every point in this game and explain why it's a good thing and why I'm wrong. I have not seen one person to praise this game do just that. You all talk about how great this game is, but never go into detail as to why it's so great, and I want to see someone at least try.
    I agree with what you're saying in regards to single player and co-op... It doesn't take very long to realize that Ubis Bolivia is NOT a living breathing world. It's more like a cute talking Elmo doll that gets more and more creepy the longer it repeats itself...

    I think this game will really shine bright if they decide to do a PVP expansion. All the ingredients are in place for this game to be SUPER fun PVP.
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    Honestly, with what I've seen of the Gunplay and gadgets, PvP would be an atrocious, unbalanced mess. A lot would have to be redesigned to make it fair and competitive, and Ubisoft's staunch refusal to even humour a discussion tells me they do not care to even try.
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    Originally Posted by ThePollie Go to original post
    Honestly, with what I've seen of the Gunplay and gadgets, PvP would be an atrocious, unbalanced mess. A lot would have to be redesigned to make it fair and competitive, and Ubisoft's staunch refusal to even humour a discussion tells me they do not care to even try.
    What does that mean? Gunplay and gadgets?

    Disable drones and thermal optics... wallah! You've got a less clunky Ghost Recon Summit Strike PVP.
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