Yes, gladly
Maybe, I haven't decided yet
No, I have my own Code of Honor
No, but I will accept DCoH players
No and I think nobody should
Let me actually update the post regarding ranked play. So there is no confusion.Originally Posted by SF_JHawk373 Go to original post
First of all, very well written, whether anybody chooses to follow that code or not to, one definitely should choose to respect those who do as I personally concur with some of your points.
The word "honor", which everyone seems to perceive in their own way, could mean a lot of things (or only one thing) to every single individual. There is one thing that does not go hand-in-hand with that word - "teabagging", to dehonest your dead opponent whether it is a 1v1, 2v2 or 4v4.
I also use an emote in 1v1 while the camera is zoomed on me as a nice little gesture, just as I say "Good Fight!" or "Wow!" if the fight goes on for long and it's quite equal. Also, I generally do not use the same hero againts the same player that I already killed 2 times (or more) in 1v1, I would feel like that player doesn't know how to counter my recently played hero and I would end up switching to some other character, but that's just my conscience kicking in.
But the most debate is brought by the 2v1 situation in Brawl matches. I truly always abhor dislawful behavior, sneaky moves and all that one would recognize as a "bad thing to do". But I really see NOTHING (had to bold and caps that word to put more emphasis on it) wrong with jumping on the other enemy while I killed my opponent to make it 2v1. Just as I can do good by saving or helping my teammate, I might as well do some bad by giving our opponent more rage-meter points, which is the time when 2v1 can backfire, considering we're both around half way down our health, putting our opponent into an advantage.
From my teammates' perspective, if I still battle my guy 1v1 and you jump in to help me or to kill the guy from behind with a single slash, feel free to! If I were the one hit from behind, I would accept that and NOT call that there is "no honor" in that as nearly everyone does. People have some weird understanding of honor. I believe it's been said NUMEROUS times but I'll say it again - if I wait for my teammate to finish his fight after I killed my opponent, only to get into another 1v1, I might as well jump into 1v1 Duels instead of Brawl.
As for ranked matches? I'll do whatever I can to either help myself to win or to help my teammate and ensure my team doesn't die. The only thing I am definitely and always going to avoid, is dehonesting dead opponents.
That being said, I don't mind if I get jumped, ganked by another player while already fighting one and it turns out to be 1v2, let that happen - it's fine with me as I would do the same. If somebody uses the environment to harm me and/or throws me off a ledge and kills me immediately, whether it's a 1v1 or 4v4 - it's fine with me as I would do the same. If my opponents retreats to heal his wounds or calls for help of his allies then again - it's fine with me as I would do the same.
If there is any "code" or anything I live and play by, it's the following: "Do not do unto others what you do not want others do unto you." which immediately explains the upper paragraph.
edit: I definitely like this code but I think it's going a bit too far at some points - declining yourself an execution or letting an opponent escape to heal himself up while he may kill someone else on the way. To each their own, though. I will stick to my own creed but respect those who chose to follow this code,
Hey LordKaterchen,
I think, your idea lacks one very important thing: some kind of sign, which will let your opponent to know, that you intend to fight according to this Code.
Find the way how such players can show this at the very beginning of a fight and after victory. It should be very clear. The more players will recognize such behaviour the more people will treat it as really "cool" thing to do.
I like your code. I will adhere to it (so long as I remember it), though clearly I will have my own, slightly different variant on it, depending on how the match goes.
But I really like some of the bits, especially saluting at the beginning to signal your intent to duel. And I also like people having their 1v1s, the battle isnt over till one person is dead so even if it looks like im losing, id appreciate being given the chance to finish the fight myself.
The idea behind this code is a good one, many valid points to which i will definitely adhere. I practiced Kendo (japanese fencing) during 5 years and like any japanese martial art there is great respect for your opponent whether you win or lose, no matter what their level, etc.
Having played a fair bit of Overwatch i was sort of shocked by the toxicity of the community, people throwing games and verbally abusing another person because they didn't want to switch characters and what not. It would be nice if For Honor had a very competitive community where players respected each other. Having said that, with such a large community we can't expect everyone to be respectful.
I don't see any problems in players pushing others off the ledge for example, it's a game mechanic to use to your advantage. But little things like not engaging an ongoing fight or not executing after a good fight i think is fine and can create a great atmosphere amongst players. Saying "Good Fight" is always good after a close combat, and i experienced this in the closed beta and i liked the respect give and shown.