Thoughts on guard breaks... | Forums

[Oupyz]

Guard attack counter need more time if there's a lagg u can't counter the guard break , they need to work on it better + mouse responsiveness

[TCTF_SWAT]

You can't dodge GB's. Only rolls have immunity to GB's. If you "dodged" a GB then you were out of range to begin with.

[Kintoun]

We need the frame data of this game...

Would be nice, but not required. Ask what info you're seeking. Many of us did testing and generally know the frame data.e.g. which classes get what after a guard break or wall throw. Someone even tested different guard stances and their frame data. A Warden can get a heavy top attack off a wall throw when in left guard stance but cannot when in top or right guard stance prior to the throw. Similar timings with Raiders unblockable after carry.

IMO guard break is perfect except the window for counter guard breaking needs to be a hair larger. It's simply not reactable unless you expect it coming.

[TCTF_SWAT]

Would be nice, but not required. Ask what info you're seeking. Many of us did testing and generally know the frame data.e.g. which classes get what after a guard break or wall throw. Someone even tested different guard stances and their frame data. A Warden can get a heavy top attack off a wall throw when in left guard stance but cannot when in top or right guard stance prior to the throw. Similar timings with Raiders unblockable after carry.

IMO guard break is perfect except the window for counter guard breaking needs to be a hair larger. It's simply not reactable unless you expect it coming.

Nah, just reduce the reward for landing a GB (this excludes wall stuns or kncokdowns).

[wvila]

You dont want to get guard break. Then do this.

Attack. And dont guard at all

[wvila]

I agree. Stop asking for changes so that it works for slow fingers to react.

just predict your opponents action then act. If your wrong then try next time you should still have enough health.

[L0k3d]

Guard attack counter need more time if there's a lagg u can't counter the guard break , they need to work on it better + mouse responsiveness

^ this

[Altair_Snake]

You get free heavies from it. Most characters can. The raider and the warlod I think are the only classes that can't.

Some can land side heavies, but not tops. The Warlord, strangely, can land a free top, but not sides. And some can land any.

And don't remember the Raider.

[Altair_Snake]

Am I crazy, or did a thread with a short GB guide just got deleted?

[TCTF_SWAT]

Some can land side heavies, but not tops. The Warlord, strangely, can land a free top, but not sides. And some can land any.

And don't remember the Raider.

I don't think that should be a thing unless it's a wall stun or a knockdown. A GB should only really allow a throw, one light attack (no autos either). That's the reward.

That way they can keep GB spammy but the reward for it is small.

I see it as if the GB counter window was increased then it would make turtling stronger due easier window breaks. If kept the way it is now then you can still slip it in but your reward isn't huge unless it's a environmental hazard or wall.

That way out in the open getting GB wouldn't spell doom all the time. And rewards better positioning and thought process.