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    Table of Moves Punishable by Guard Break on Block - All Beta Matchups

    Hello Warriors,

    Just did a whole bunch of testing with a buddy on what moves are unsafe. And by unsafe I mean that when the move is Blocked, the defender can do an uninterruptible Guard Break on the attacker. This does not include Parries or Deflects.

    We will be making some gifs/videos in the near future to show this off visually, but wanted to get the info out there for everyone trying to up their game.

    Link to the Google Sheet
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    Great job!!!
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    Holy crud. Looks like berserker gets the short end of the stick! xD
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    Hmmmm not buying it seems sketchy. I'll see for myself come feb 9th.
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    Originally Posted by TCTF_SWAT Go to original post
    Hmmmm not buying it seems sketchy. I'll see for myself come feb 9th.
    Your basis for rejecting empirical data is "seems sketchy"? It's not like this is hard to test.
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    Originally Posted by Kintoun Go to original post
    Your basis for rejecting empirical data is "seems sketchy"? It's not like this is hard to test.
    Because when in doubt. Do it yourself. And I have doubts. Plus I already stated "I'll see for myself on feb 9th."
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    That's actually a true thing and it needs to be changed- free GB after block, common...
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    This is now the best thread in this forum.
    You, Sir, are a scholar and a gentleman.

    Also Conqueror getting free guardbreaks left right and center is rather concerning.
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    Originally Posted by vennstrom. Go to original post
    This is now the best thread in this forum.
    You, Sir, are a scholar and a gentleman.

    Also Conqueror getting free guardbreaks left right and center is rather concerning.
    Technically, the Conqueror's light attack should only be unsafe vs another Conqueror, being that his light chain is infinite so the second swing goes through opponents guard-break. That is, if he is a decent Conqueror :]
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    This table doesn't seem right at all...

    Or maybe the verbiage is just off...

    Is this saying that any character can get a free guardbreak against the berserker and conqueror off any blocked light attack?

    And the conqueror can get a free guardbreak off any blocked heavy from any class?

    Because I played conqueror during the beta and never once did someone abuse this flaw in conqueror design against me.

    Also, even if it is true that the conqueror does get free guard breaks against blocked heavies (and I'd need to see this to believe it), conqueror guard breaks are pretty unrewarding. They only get a free light side attack compared to say orochi who gets a free overhead heavy.

    It certainly isn't enough to convince me to play conqueror over warlord for preferred heavy.
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