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[K4rma.]

The only issue I had with balance is with the Nobushi. I would parry her attacks and yet she is so far from me that I can't hit her. I would parry and immediately do a light. Nothing. Parry then a heavy. Nothing. Parry and immediately guard break, no contact. I'm not talking just basic blocking, I full on parried her and yet I could never get in close enough. Nerf the range on the spear just a bit and she would be perfectly balanced in my opinion.

[CritBull]

Hi all, just a few comments to throw around when thinking about the polls and overpowered classes.

Some may agree or disagree feel free to have your say. My thoughts are these (I have a science & R&D background). So for me to make unbiased judgements when considering if a class (character) is overpowered or not we need to consider a number of things that help us to quantify and take out subjective opinions. For example it seems like people are complaining about the assassin/hybrid classes like the Peacekeeper, Noboshi, Orochi and a few others.. I think we need to keep in mind that every class in the game has a specific role type and it will depend what type of game you are playing (also level and gear, and players skill etc) that will bring out the best in each characters abilities and skill sets not to mention your game PING. These characters may be good in some scenarios and weak in others.

To be honest to me these overpower polls are a waste of time because everyone's experience, level and skill of game play is different so at best these polls only provide unreliable subjective feedback that provide misleading information because the information has not been received in a controlled setting (eg conducted in a controlled setting with people at similar skill and knowledge levels of their characters playing under every gaming scenario)

To give a fair unbiased view on if a character is overpowered or under powered we need to keep in mind what the characters role is in the game. Obviously an assassin role should be best in 1 v 1 situations (Cmon its an assassin). You will notice that those same classes are glass cannons and are difficult to play against multiple players (1 v 2 or more). For example in dominion I think their best role is in defending zones or sneaking to kill other single players on the battlefield. Against multiple players these classes are under powered! So it balances out in the overall experience of the game. This is not taking into consideration how the end game functions with gear and level either.

To really give fair feedback that does not cause unnecessarily nerfs that will destroy a character you really need to control test these classes with groups of players that have a similar level of skill and character knowledge under the different conditions and battlefields offered in the game. Anything else is subjective and useless for determining if a character needs fixing or not.

[Auto864]

I played a lot of Orachai and Conqueror in the Alpha and Beta. When playing against Orachai I found (after losing a ton), you need to change your play style because Orachai and Nobushi are just so fast and can really take advantage of heavy swings.

I got use to the Orachai, but playing against the Nobushi got to be very frustrating at times. We played agaist a computer in 4v4 and we could never kill it. It got 15 kills and all the other comps got 3 or 4. It might just be a high skill cap but man, it was rough to fight.

[ManAmoungPoodle]

anyone saying the nobushi is overpowered just doesn't know how to block and or change fighting styles.

[Avirex_Idyll]

you need to change your play style.....

This, this right here is what people need to remember when fighting any class in For Honor. EVERY class needs to be handled differently. You can't attack a Orochi like you would a PK or Berserker. Each class has pros and cons and you have to learn each of them. However, this does not account for play style either.

[Butonfly]

Kensei - The damage buff they needed was probably necessary. However now the damage seems over the top given the speed in which they attack. Kensei's lights in particular hit so hard, especially since they always come in multiples. Given their range of cleave, this makes even poorly timed attacks rewarding.

I think Kensei needs to be shaved down a little in some area.