Daily Poll: SAMURAI - Day 1 Balance Impressions | Forums

[FredEx919]

Hey everybody!

We hope you've had a great first day in the Tech Test. We know it's still early times, but we wanted some of your early impressions on the character balance. In addition to voting, please share your thoughts/opinions in this thread below the poll as well.

[ray29x]

can i vote more than once? both the orochi and the nobushi are overpowered

[ShozukeLyon]

Don't really have the time to write out a full fledged response, I'd just like to give my two cents about the Orochi. I've been playing sense the first technical test, and thus I've gotten a decent understanding of the heroes balancing over time. Since day one, the orochi has had more people playing it, and has been constantly nerfed. It kinda seems (at-least to me) that people simply yell about the Orochi being powerful as they are often beaten by them (which makes sense considering many ppl prefer them in 1v1's). I'd like to see one tech test that doesn't result in further nerfing of the Orochi. I personally have fought every hero as the Orochi NUMEROUS times, and feel that it's quite balanced. It can no longer parry or deflect very well, it's movement speed is exponentially slower than used to, and it no longer can dodge out of attacks. I personally don't see anything coming out of nerfing him yet again.

[SPL3NDYD]

Well i think kinda diffrent that the previus speaker. in my oppinion orochi is well balanced and alot of fun. And ur punished for mistakes but revarded for playes. But playing against nobushi is no fun in my oppinion. I just dont like tha fact that u get kited by a hero only killable in close quaters. And when u rech her she can do the jump kick to get outa danger. And when opening up against her u have to start with a block or u ll recieve free dmg, but when u bock she either does a quickatack to interrupt ur next move or she moves backwards. And lets be honest it just feels bad when ur bleeding to death.
But Kensei is overtuned in my oppinion. Its the combination of good range good combos good mobility and good defence. Hes just good overall. What i think is the main reason for him being strong is the fact that u can cancel the combo hits for a light slash which i things keeps the enemy for geting revarded for doging ur heave hit, becaus u hit em with a light slash, giving u the upper hand. And if he blocks the slash hes not realy revarded for that becaus if he doesnt pary it u just move back or when he parys it he need the won time to get close to u. So i thing Kensei shuld have the disadwantage of moving slower backwards than other heroes on he should no loner be able to cancel the combo attack. Anyways i enjoy the game keep the work up and im looking forward to a 1v1 turnament. BTW im only talking about 1v1 balance becaus i have most experience there. CYA

[CursedOwl]

Orochi is very difficult a single mistake and you pay for it, a lot.
it rewards careful play and precise execution, I am ok with it... still it has the bonus of a lot of damage and mobility with little to none issues (let's be honest, the "reflex guard" of all the assassin is not much of a problem)

Kensei is overall really good, slow left-right attack but godly strong top strong strike and fantastic guard-break gap closer, it is REALLY good but really "all in" if you commit for the strong top unblockable strike.

Nobushi... that's the "issue" it is not a question of being really OP, she is overall balanced as far as damage goes... poking, dodges... the problem are the fantastic combination and the amount of cancel choices she has.
Strike into hidden stance into kick into dodge into bleed poke... ?_?
It is REALLY boring to play vs a Nobushi. that's the problem. If you are and assassin or a vanguard it is really troublesome, some other classes can wreck her like nothing (peacekeepers, Kensei, Viking big Guy) ... dunno i LOVE to play her, but I do understand that i can be really a pain to play against.

Suggestions : get rid of the bleeding on her poke (back - light attack) that is getting really abused and she IS going to be totally fine

[Jaxiel.Aeglos]

I don't have any problems with any of the samurai.
I think they are all well balnced.

The only exception is the orochi skill "back+dodge+heavy attack", which get them ready for a heavy strike from a very long distance in my opinion.
You can easily parry this move by parrying on the left side, however, you only have time to attack from the left side as well before they escape. so all they have to do is parry right.
It doesn't feel like they get punished for this reckless move.

I just lost a 1v1 duel where i was clearly ahead. but the guy kept spamming this move. dodge back, attack, parry my counter, dodge back and repeat.

Maybe i am missing something and I have yet to figure out how to counter this move. But since I play a lot as the orochi, i think the range should be shortened. or maybe you get stunned just half a second longer if the target parry your strike. so you get punished for it. or maybe it consumes a lot of stamina so you can't just keep repating it.

I am looking forward to the next spammer. Maybe i can find the right counter

[Thotasaurus_Rex]

i can agree she is pretty well balanced and i really enjoy playing her but playing against her i feel like its really difficult to close the gap against her so to say could just be my inexperience fighting against her but i had a hard time fighting her as any other class besides nobushi

[KyngAlphaWolf]

When he guard breaks you,combos you and does it again ._.Its game over

[Dragdritt]

Personally I really dislike the chance of deflect for orochi from being blocking at the correct timing to dodging. At least the blocking worked, half the time I dodge (at the "correct" timing) I just get hit like normal...

[jimwsp]

In my opinion both orachai and kensai are overpowered, it shouldnt take three hits to kill me even if im defending. And im not the only one who is having this problem fighting them.