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  1. #11
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    Originally Posted by aldramelech Go to original post
    Wildlands doesn't even have a PVP mode and no plans to introduce one.
    If you buy Wildlands, do you trust Ubisoft not to change their mind and screw the solo pve'r after release? Or the coop pve'r come to that? After all, look at the pre game info on this game compared to what we have now.
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    Originally Posted by paweaz Go to original post
    WARNING LONG WHINGE

    Normally i'm not a regular poster unless it's about something thats gonna alter the game for the worse,however this morning i read with genuine concern someone demanding that our grenades be reduced and tied to a cooldown....WTF........Are you for real man .......I'm sick listening to all the yapping that goes on in here and on reddit it's almost always down to PVP whingers..... lets take a look at what has changed in the game because of this since release

    Sentry set ruined
    Striker set ruined
    Tactician set ruined
    D3FNC set ruined
    Alphabridge set ruined
    Predators set ruined
    Deadeye set ruined

    Smart cover ruined
    Heals reduced
    Healing talents reduced
    CHC/CHD reduced
    M1A ruined
    Shotguns ruined
    X-45 ruined
    G-36 ruined
    SMGs in general ruined
    MG5 desecrated
    Shotguns ruined

    Cover or skill based mechanics ? useless its all about pray and spray and role poley.........

    and now with 1.6

    Seeker mines rendered useless....ohhhh thats not fair theres no skill in throwing seekers or using skills yap yap yap.....ahhh and i suppose there IS skill in maxing a gun with 9 fake talents and bursting your opponent down in 3 seconds.....

    Sticky Bomb useless.....were gonna warn you before we shoot a grenade with a delay on detonation and big a feck off flashing light lol
    No reload while on trying to run....why not hobble our legs together too while your at it......

    Reduced effectivness of skill builds again

    Cool new eir and hildr weapons whacked into history before they're even released
    Cool new Seekr set about to be rendered useless before it's even released....

    ZERO changes to rogue penalites in the DZ
    ZERO changes to reduce ganking and bullying of weaker players cept ohhh were gonna increase the size of the DZ so its harder for rogues to find you...nope they'll just camp extractions and checkpoints as usual ohh and give them a bigger area to run and run when rogue.....
    Healing talents are to be nerfed
    Delayed healing times......
    Increased healing and skill cooldowns.....

    the list could go on and on.....

    Anyone else see a pattern here ?

    This is all done to apease PVP..... NOTHING has benefited PVE or solo play at all.......the PVE enemies seem to get they're skills increased..eg....infinite heals and heal stations,infinite grenades,grenade spamming,one shotters,pin point accuracy etc..........but its all fine to nerf our sets into the ground.....

    This so called elite task force must have been composed of hardcore PVP players for sure....only a PVPer would have implemented the proposed changes and think its a good idea......

    THIS NEEDS TO STOP NOW.....
    Before this game is all but a shell and of course the PVP whingers will just move on to another gankfest game to ruin............

    If you want to PVP and test your mettle and trash talk then you should have ZERO talents or gear bonuses normalize everyone in the DZ same weapon damage output same skill cap,same gear set bonus cap then lets see who's really bad.......this would negate all the ********,everyone is equal and only your skill and inteligence will decide the outcome of a fight like it should be........

    PVE and solo players need to wake up and speak up before these PVP fools ruin this beloved game.......

    Were just going round in circles nerf this set buff this weapon nerf this skill etc...etc....all this does is create a new meta for the PVPers to exploit......then back to square one again next patch.....by nerfing stuff each patch for "balance" is a nonsense there is no balance and never will be with hundreds of sets and weapons its impossible nerfing stuff only proves that you were wrong in the previous patch round and round we go.............

    Don't get me wrong i enjoy PVP i'm DZ lvl 99 200+ rogues killed 1050hrs played but i'm tired of grinding and grinding for months to perfect a set only to have it rendered useless every patch..........

    Massive have done a great job trying to please the community hats off to the guys and gals but please before its too late stop basing everything around PVP please
    I agree, and its been said in many different ways since beta http://forums.ubi.com/showthread.php...ave-could-have but what do you expect when they bring in self proclaim *** hats from Redstorm to supposedly fix it. Until they get there heads out of the "Darkzone" this game will continue to melt into a pile of rubbish. Separating the 2 play styles is the only thing that will fix it.
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    Originally Posted by aldramelech Go to original post
    This is the great thing about PVP players, you are all so utterly convinced that gaming revolves around you. It really doesn't, if anything PVP in general is in decline, we have hard facts from Massive that PVE players are the majority in this game, Wildlands doesn't even have a PVP mode and no plans to introduce one.

    Co-Op play is however on the rise with people more happy to play together and help each other. The toxicity, **** talking, cheating and racism that now inherently comes with any PVP mode or game is turning off a largely aging gaming population who basically can't be doing with that kind of drama in their lives.

    So keep telling yourself your important and that you matter if it makes you feel any better.
    The real fact that PVE players are the majority is because pvp players play both pvp and pve. Instead pve players well...

    I like pvp and toxicity you will find in any game, including TD pve missions
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    Originally Posted by fixer7267 Go to original post
    If you buy Wildlands, do you trust Ubisoft not to change their mind and screw the solo pve'r after release? Or the coop pve'r come to that? After all, look at the pre game info on this game compared to what we have now.
    I don't believe Massive has anything to do with that game, however it's not even an RPG game so i'm not sure how much interest it will hold over time. This game is an RPG game and Massive seems surprised most of the players are PVE oriented. How do you force a round peg into a square hole? ask Massive.
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    Originally Posted by MaximeBizZ Go to original post
    Just look at destiny the moment they announced the crucible the game popularity gone through the roof it show the importance of PVP.
    You've never played Destiny, have you? The Crucible has been there since Day One so I'm not sure what this spike in popularity is you're talking about.
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    Originally Posted by Grimway Go to original post
    I don't believe Massive has anything to do with that game, however it's not even an RPG game so i'm not sure how much interest it will hold over time. This game is an RPG game and Massive seems surprised most of the players are PVE oriented. How do you force a round peg into a square hole? ask Massive.
    Yes but Massive is a Ubisoft studio and the ultimate yes or no comes from Ubi.
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    Originally Posted by Art.Van.Delay Go to original post
    I wish there would be a single thread in this forum, where PVE only players don't base everything on completely made up assumptions. Maybe, but just maybe, someone would take you seriously in a conversation about your favorite topic.

    And as Kalibhan said said right above your posts, many PVP players play also PVE content, there is no such clear distinction as you guys would like there to be. In fact it's the PVP players being pushed into PVE content ( Lexington, anyone? ), but not the other way round.
    Yup TD is just a pve'rs dream, especially if you are solo.
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    Originally Posted by aldramelech Go to original post
    This is the great thing about PVP players, you are all so utterly convinced that gaming revolves around you. It really doesn't, if anything PVP in general is in decline, we have hard facts from Massive that PVE players are the majority in this game, Wildlands doesn't even have a PVP mode and no plans to introduce one.

    Co-Op play is however on the rise with people more happy to play together and help each other. The toxicity, **** talking, cheating and racism that now inherently comes with any PVP mode or game is turning off a largely aging gaming population who basically can't be doing with that kind of drama in their lives.

    So keep telling yourself your important and that you matter if it makes you feel any better.
    Are you trying to convince yourself ?
    The most popular game are PVP just look at twitch its enough of a proof when it come to wildland ubisoft confirmed PVP long ago.
    They said its gonna be something different from the division since there's no item stats its just gear customization.

    Dont get me wrong i like PVE and a good storyline but it get boring pretty quickly thats why PVP is important to a game because the experience it offer will never be the same due to the fact that human are impredictable and thats something PVE will never be able to offer.
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    Don't blame PvP for this mess.

    It's the Dev's insistence on reinventing the wheel with each and every patch that will be the death of this game, if anything.

    The game's been out almost a year, and they're STILL drastically changing core game mechanics with each patch, and they STILL can't find proper balance or fix bugs that have been present since launch, without screwing something else up in the process.

    Then, with the next patch, they'll undo half of what they just "fixed"!
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    Originally Posted by M0J033 Go to original post
    Don't blame PvP for this mess.

    It's the Dev's insistence on reinventing the wheel with each and every patch that will be the death of this game, if anything.

    The game's been out almost a year, and they're STILL drastically changing core game mechanics with each patch, and they STILL can't find proper balance or fix bugs that have been present since launch, without screwing something else up in the process.

    Then, with the next patch, they'll undo half of what they just "fixed"!
    These devs have yet to realize their dream, i'm sure by year 4 or 5 they may have some solid ground to stand on and call forth a champion on.
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