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    PVP is gonna be the death of this game.....

    WARNING LONG WHINGE

    Normally i'm not a regular poster unless it's about something thats gonna alter the game for the worse,however this morning i read with genuine concern someone demanding that our grenades be reduced and tied to a cooldown....WTF........Are you for real man .......I'm sick listening to all the yapping that goes on in here and on reddit it's almost always down to PVP whingers..... lets take a look at what has changed in the game because of this since release

    Sentry set ruined
    Striker set ruined
    Tactician set ruined
    D3FNC set ruined
    Alphabridge set ruined
    Predators set ruined
    Deadeye set ruined

    Smart cover ruined
    Heals reduced
    Healing talents reduced
    CHC/CHD reduced
    M1A ruined
    Shotguns ruined
    X-45 ruined
    G-36 ruined
    SMGs in general ruined
    MG5 desecrated
    Shotguns ruined

    Cover or skill based mechanics ? useless its all about pray and spray and role poley.........

    and now with 1.6

    Seeker mines rendered useless....ohhhh thats not fair theres no skill in throwing seekers or using skills yap yap yap.....ahhh and i suppose there IS skill in maxing a gun with 9 fake talents and bursting your opponent down in 3 seconds.....

    Sticky Bomb useless.....were gonna warn you before we shoot a grenade with a delay on detonation and big a feck off flashing light lol
    No reload while on trying to run....why not hobble our legs together too while your at it......

    Reduced effectivness of skill builds again

    Cool new eir and hildr weapons whacked into history before they're even released
    Cool new Seekr set about to be rendered useless before it's even released....

    ZERO changes to rogue penalites in the DZ
    ZERO changes to reduce ganking and bullying of weaker players cept ohhh were gonna increase the size of the DZ so its harder for rogues to find you...nope they'll just camp extractions and checkpoints as usual ohh and give them a bigger area to run and run when rogue.....
    Healing talents are to be nerfed
    Delayed healing times......
    Increased healing and skill cooldowns.....

    the list could go on and on.....

    Anyone else see a pattern here ?

    This is all done to apease PVP..... NOTHING has benefited PVE or solo play at all.......the PVE enemies seem to get they're skills increased..eg....infinite heals and heal stations,infinite grenades,grenade spamming,one shotters,pin point accuracy etc..........but its all fine to nerf our sets into the ground.....

    This so called elite task force must have been composed of hardcore PVP players for sure....only a PVPer would have implemented the proposed changes and think its a good idea......

    THIS NEEDS TO STOP NOW.....
    Before this game is all but a shell and of course the PVP whingers will just move on to another gankfest game to ruin............

    If you want to PVP and test your mettle and trash talk then you should have ZERO talents or gear bonuses normalize everyone in the DZ same weapon damage output same skill cap,same gear set bonus cap then lets see who's really bad.......this would negate all the ********,everyone is equal and only your skill and inteligence will decide the outcome of a fight like it should be........

    PVE and solo players need to wake up and speak up before these PVP fools ruin this beloved game.......

    Were just going round in circles nerf this set buff this weapon nerf this skill etc...etc....all this does is create a new meta for the PVPers to exploit......then back to square one again next patch.....by nerfing stuff each patch for "balance" is a nonsense there is no balance and never will be with hundreds of sets and weapons its impossible nerfing stuff only proves that you were wrong in the previous patch round and round we go.............

    Don't get me wrong i enjoy PVP i'm DZ lvl 99 200+ rogues killed 1050hrs played but i'm tired of grinding and grinding for months to perfect a set only to have it rendered useless every patch..........

    Massive have done a great job trying to please the community hats off to the guys and gals but please before its too late stop basing everything around PVP please
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    Didn't read but pvp is what keeps games alive, can't imagine people playing bf4 or cod campaign for 2 years. Pve is so predictable and there's no wonder pvers are getting bored even if there was alot more content.
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    Massive will say ore game or rules you are nothing but guinea pigs deal with it.
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    Originally Posted by Nopvedz4you Go to original post
    there's no wonder pvers are getting bored even if there was alot more content.
    Well the way this game is headed and as pointed out by the OP, has been for a while, we probably will never know. Will we?
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    Originally Posted by Nopvedz4you Go to original post
    Didn't read but pvp is what keeps games alive, can't imagine people playing bf4 or cod campaign for 2 years. Pve is so predictable and there's no wonder pvers are getting bored even if there was alot more content.
    I agree man i enjoy PVP but lets not keep choping and changing what IS good for the sake of PVP..... i think the normalization is a great idea everyone the same in the DZ let skill and tactics decide the outcome...... of course PVPers will SCREAM LIKE LITTLE BOYS if this is implemented as they cannot get they're way anymore...no more preying on new inexperienced or solo players.........
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    Originally Posted by paweaz Go to original post
    I agree man i enjoy PVP but lets not keep choping and changing what IS good for the sake of PVP..... i think the normalization is a great idea everyone the same in the DZ let skill and tactics decide the outcome...... of course PVPers will SCREAM LIKE LITTLE BOYS if this is implemented as they cannot get they're way anymore...no more preying on new inexperienced or solo players.........
    Tbh I think there should be 2 modes normalised and hardcore so that will hopefully please everyone bar pvers.
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    This is the great thing about PVP players, you are all so utterly convinced that gaming revolves around you. It really doesn't, if anything PVP in general is in decline, we have hard facts from Massive that PVE players are the majority in this game, Wildlands doesn't even have a PVP mode and no plans to introduce one.

    Co-Op play is however on the rise with people more happy to play together and help each other. The toxicity, **** talking, cheating and racism that now inherently comes with any PVP mode or game is turning off a largely aging gaming population who basically can't be doing with that kind of drama in their lives.

    So keep telling yourself your important and that you matter if it makes you feel any better.
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    Originally Posted by Nopvedz4you Go to original post
    Didn't read but pvp is what keeps games alive, can't imagine people playing bf4 or cod campaign for 2 years. Pve is so predictable and there's no wonder pvers are getting bored even if there was alot more content.
    That's a terrible comparison. Battlefield and CoD are PvP games. The campaigns are just there to get you used to the mechanics and then its off to the multiplayer. The Division is not the same thing at all. And while I don't disagree that PvP in games like this is a great way to keep players invested long past the point where the PvE has gotten stale, it does suck to have gear/weapons ruined in PvE because it was deemed OP in PvP. Destiny has the exact same problem. I'd like to see developers like Massive and Bungie come up with ways to separate the two sides a bit better.
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    At this point PVP the only reason people still play this game so this is the other way arround.
    Almost nobody enjoy PVE content just look at twitch top 10 game they all PVP ( league of legend , Dota , conterstrike , For honor , overwatch . H1Z1 , Hearthstone )

    Ive seen this happened to diablo 3 where the devs decided to listen to the PVE community at left PVP aside with no update you know the result the game died rather quickly. Just look at destiny the moment they announced the crucible the game popularity gone through the roof it show the importance of PVP.



    There's a reason why people enjoy PVP so much its because it offer a challenge that PVE cant offer you will never be able to predict a human reaction while on the other hand its easy to figure out a NPC/BOT patern.
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    Originally Posted by Nopvedz4you Go to original post
    Didn't read but pvp is what keeps games alive, can't imagine people playing bf4 or cod campaign for 2 years. Pve is so predictable and there's no wonder pvers are getting bored even if there was alot more content.
    You should have read it before commenting. The OP actually addressed your concern:

    Originally Posted by paweaz Go to original post
    If you want to PVP and test your mettle and trash talk then you should have ZERO talents or gear bonuses normalize everyone in the DZ same weapon damage output same skill cap,same gear set bonus cap then lets see who's really bad.......this would negate all the ********,everyone is equal and only your skill and intelligence will decide the outcome of a fight like it should be........
    I like the idea. That way PvP'ers can have fair matches (PvP endgame), and PvE'ers can gear grind (PvE endgame).
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