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    NPC better not have armor

    NPC armor better get removed now. Since us the players will have basically no armor anymore NPC better be the same way. Its fine to leave armor on like Named bosses but the others should not have it.
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    MerlinMMXX's Avatar Senior Member
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    You can bet your bottom dollar those guys will be armoured to the teeth.
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    Nope...PVE content is a joke. Maybe this will make legendary difficultly the endgame we were waiting for.

    As long as their health pool is not increased you'll still have the same time to kill....you just cant face trade as much.
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    WTF are you talking about?


    AI Armor is health equivalent.

    Player Armor is damage mitigation, the problem with which was that it scaled exponentially, when the latter scaled linearly.
    Players are being compensated with linear health.


    Makes no sense to remove AI armor, your DPS didn't drop.
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    Originally Posted by xWTOx SkiLLz Go to original post
    NPC armor better get removed now. Since us the players will have basically no armor anymore NPC better be the same way. Its fine to leave armor on like Named bosses but the others should not have it.
    I was thinking the same thing but you bet me to it but that won't helps os we all know how devs work add MORE BULLET SPONGES, NERF all the gear and weapons remove the armor in the end we all run in ore underwear + their legendary cap one and the only won not pom pom Beanie
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    Originally Posted by sandpants Go to original post
    WTF are you talking about?


    AI Armor is health equivalent.

    Player Armor is damage mitigation, the problem with which was that it scaled exponentially, when the latter scaled linearly.
    Players are being compensated with linear health.


    Makes no sense to remove AI armor, your DPS didn't drop.
    Umm maybe you missed parts where they're reducing the damage gap between headshots and body shots. So if thats not a DPS nerf then I don't know what is. And also you can bet on it that most guns will get nerfed heavily to compensate for the no armor in PvP. So they'll nerf guns so they're not 1 shotting in PvP. And ontop of that attributes like crit damage will be rebalanced as well to again compensate for having literally no armor anymore.

    And if NPC were to stay the same they'll will be hitting you a lot harder then you think most people don't realize this cause everyone runs all armor builds right now but try and run around with like 30% armor cause thats where you'll most likely be after the update. And with little armor means you cant trade damage as much with NPC cause 1-2 shots and you'll be hiding waiting for your heal to cooldown.
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    Originally Posted by sandpants Go to original post
    WTF are you talking about?


    AI Armor is health equivalent.

    Player Armor is damage mitigation, the problem with which was that it scaled exponentially, when the latter scaled linearly.
    Players are being compensated with linear health.


    Makes no sense to remove AI armor, your DPS didn't drop.
    Which is part of the reason they are having such an issue with pve balance in this game. NPC's do not use the same system as players.
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    Originally Posted by xWTOx SkiLLz Go to original post
    Umm maybe you missed parts where they're reducing the damage dealt by body shots and headshots. So if thats not a DPS nerf then I don't know what is. And also you can bet on it that most funs will get nerfed heavily to compensate for the no armor in PvP. So they'll nerf guns so they're not 1 shotting in PvP
    No, they'reducing the damage gap between body shots and headshots so, either they'll lower headshot damage slightly, or increase body damage.

    If it's the latter, it'll actually be a dps buff.
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    Originally Posted by xWTOx SkiLLz Go to original post
    Umm maybe you missed parts where they're reducing the damage dealt by body shots and headshots. So if thats not a DPS nerf then I don't know what is. And also you can bet on it that most funs will get nerfed heavily to compensate for the no armor in PvP. So they'll nerf guns so they're not 1 shotting in PvP
    They are not reducing the damage dealt by body and headshots.

    They are reducing the damage gap between body and head shots. Most likely they ar buffing body shot damage.
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    Originally Posted by xWTOx SkiLLz Go to original post
    Umm maybe you missed parts where they're reducing the damage gap between headshots and body shots. So if thats not a DPS nerf then I don't know what is. And also you can bet on it that most guns will get nerfed heavily to compensate for the no armor in PvP. So they'll nerf guns so they're not 1 shotting in PvP. And ontop of that attributes like crit damage will be rebalanced as well to again compensate for having literally no armor anymore.

    And if NPC were to stay the same they'll will be hitting you a lot harder then you think most people don't realize this cause everyone runs all armor builds right now but try and run around with like 30% armor cause thats where you'll most likely be after the update. And with little armor means you cant trade damage as much with NPC cause 1-2 shots and you'll be hiding waiting for your heal to cooldown.
    what else is there to nerf all the guns in the game are complete garbage except the top 3 guns in the game
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