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    Make Massive/Red Storm/Ubisoft Listen!

    For the implementation of 1.4 the players were listened to. After this it seems the devs got so caught up with their success they have forgotten what made it possible. That was listening to the players.
    They only listened because player numbers had dropped so low.

    So it stands to reason that if like me you are thoroughly disappointed with the news of 1.6, make them listen again and stop playing!

    Maybe if numbers drop low enough again they'll ask us what we want.
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    Originally Posted by Hugo-FOU Go to original post
    For the implementation of 1.4 the players were listened to. After this it seems the devs got so caught up with their success they have forgotten what made it possible. That was listening to the players.
    They only listened because player numbers had dropped so low.

    So it stands to reason that if like me you are thoroughly disappointed with the news of 1.6, make them listen again and stop playing!

    Maybe if numbers drop low enough again they'll ask us what we want.
    Done.
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    Originally Posted by Hugo-FOU Go to original post
    For the implementation of 1.4 the players were listened to. After this it seems the devs got so caught up with their success they have forgotten what made it possible. That was listening to the players.
    They only listened because player numbers had dropped so low.

    So it stands to reason that if like me you are thoroughly disappointed with the news of 1.6, make them listen again and stop playing!

    Maybe if numbers drop low enough again they'll ask us what we want.

    Does that mean you are going to stop posting multiple times in multiple threads saying the very same things time and time again, coz it's getting pretty old my friend.
    These little tantrum episodes will not work. How about evolving in your gaming style (which is quite exhilerating by the way being a diehard solo PVEr myself). Or not.

    Again we still don't have the complete story of 1.6.


    [Moderators] Gabe, QuB3, may I suggest starting a different subthread for PVE discussion so we can get back General Discussion again and not have to sift through all of these players that don't want to challenge themselves by evolving their game. This new subthread will also allow Massive to monitor how much the PVE aspect is supposedly starving in the game.

    Cheers
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    Originally Posted by Hugo-FOU Go to original post
    For the implementation of 1.4 the players were listened to. After this it seems the devs got so caught up with their success they have forgotten what made it possible. That was listening to the players.
    They only listened because player numbers had dropped so low.

    So it stands to reason that if like me you are thoroughly disappointed with the news of 1.6, make them listen again and stop playing!

    Maybe if numbers drop low enough again they'll ask us what we want.
    Just wait for 1.6 to be released
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    Originally Posted by xTheCripplerx Go to original post
    Just wait for 1.6 to be released
    We can see the trainwreck starting to happen already, Is there some secret fairy that's going to implement needed changes for PVE? Taken at face value there is nothing of interest to keep the PVE player cranking this up. This is also the last dlc, so i'm not sure where the optimism comes from.
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    Originally Posted by Hugo-FOU Go to original post
    For the implementation of 1.4 the players were listened to. After this it seems the devs got so caught up with their success they have forgotten what made it possible. That was listening to the players.
    They only listened because player numbers had dropped so low.

    So it stands to reason that if like me you are thoroughly disappointed with the news of 1.6, make them listen again and stop playing!

    Maybe if numbers drop low enough again they'll ask us what we want.
    It's fairly obvious they don't care what we want, we shall see how well the division 2 does with only the pvp crowd having interest in it. I've already move back to Warframe, Should be a fun year with Mass Effect and possibly Destiny 2 coming to PC.Wildlands might be amusing for a while, although i'm not sure their is enough RPG to keep me interested long term.
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    Wildlands is the next game on my horizon. It looks like a proper Tom Clancy game.

    To me, the one thing that is indicative of how bad this game has been (and largely still is) was Skill-Up making a video of "Why you should come back to the Division". Was that a year after launch? Two years? No. It was 6 months after launch. The game was THAT bad after 6 months.

    Massive got a lot of praise for 1.4. Behind closed doors they must have been sat there laughing. "Hey guys, look at all the praise we're getting for doing something that we should have done in the first place. Our player base are a bunch of idiots. Lets see if they'll swallow micro transactions next, the gullible fools. Tell them it's so we can continue development. We'll make a mint."

    I'd prefer them to have just come out and said that content for the first year can't be changed and is primarily PvP based. Oops, our bad. Please come back in year 2 and we'll see what we can do for you soloists and die hard PvErs.
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    Originally Posted by tropolite Go to original post
    Does that mean you are going to stop posting multiple times in multiple threads saying the very same things time and time again, coz it's getting pretty old my friend.
    These little tantrum episodes will not work. How about evolving in your gaming style (which is quite exhilerating by the way being a diehard solo PVEr myself). Or not.

    Again we still don't have the complete story of 1.6.


    [Moderators] Gabe, QuB3, may I suggest starting a different subthread for PVE discussion so we can get back General Discussion again and not have to sift through all of these players that don't want to challenge themselves by evolving their game. This new subthread will also allow Massive to monitor how much the PVE aspect is supposedly starving in the game.

    Cheers
    Tropolite, I understand your frustration with this but if it really is a small minority who want a PvE DZ, it seems unlikely that they could so clutter up the entire General Discussion forum with threads about the subject that you would need to suggest the PvE DZ threads receive their own sub-forum.

    You might also want to take a look at just how many replies there are to threads like this in contrast to others giving another very clear indication of how strongly the community feels about the matter.

    It might be a little more constructive to suggest that the developers and/or Ubisoft make a reply ON THEIR OWN OFFICIAL FORUM addressing the issue. The fact that they won't, indicates very clearly that they are too spineless to come on here because they know full well what sort of response they would get because it is not an insignificant number of players that they have upset by ignoring the issue, burying their heads in the sand and hoping it will just disappear.

    Ignoring this issue when it is clearly so important to so many is in all honesty, stupid and irresponsible. I am sure that if you are patient these threads will stop as more and more PvE players leave. I am also equally sure that every post made by a PvE player stating that he is leaving will be met with comments like "Don't forget to close the door on the way out!"

    What I fail to understand however is why the PvP crowd are so against a PvE only DZ when you seem quite content for all the PvE players to just leave. You put forward the argument that without PvE players in the DZ there are no deer for the wolves to hunt which will be boring and yet you have no fear whatsoever about people leaving the game altogether out of disgust. Do you not understand that if people leave the Division altogether that means they will no longer go in the DZ?

    If this sort of situation persists I can pretty much guarantee that within a few months there will be an abundance of other threads on the forums complaining about long waiting times for matchmaking, empty servers and a need to encourage people back to the game. The solution is here, staring you in the face and all you can do is ridicule anyone that brings it up. The game is dying and the developers are once again ignoring all the warnings of an imminent collapse.
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    Thanks to everyone for your comments and discussion. It's good that you all get involved even if the developers don't.
    I uninstalled the game from my PS4 today and am looking to trade it in if I get the chance next week.
    Thanks to those of you that have been 'allies' over the months (I'm sure you know who you are and to those that disagreed with me thanks for the for heated debates. They were fun.
    Good luck to all.
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    Originally Posted by Hugo-FOU Go to original post
    For the implementation of 1.4 the players were listened to. After this it seems the devs got so caught up with their success they have forgotten what made it possible. That was listening to the players.
    They only listened because player numbers had dropped so low.

    So it stands to reason that if like me you are thoroughly disappointed with the news of 1.6, make them listen again and stop playing!

    Maybe if numbers drop low enough again they'll ask us what we want.
    Totally agree and I'm already doing my part. Haven't touched the live game since last summer.
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