Originally Posted by
Winslow-the-Dog
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They don't get to me but I thought this forum was about more than just me or you. I AM one of the people who gets killed a lot and clapped over because I'm usually one of the last ones to give up and 1v4 (or 1v9 as it ended up last night) isn't good odds.
It's comical a lot of the time. The nine man supergroup had a sniper set up right outside the check point trying to one shot people as they spawned. He got shot numerous times obviously before respawning players were focused on by the rest of the group and we were told on the mic to stop "picking on the sniper" because it was unfair. Seriously?
I accept there are legitimate uses of the emotes, I agree with Skorpiqn that on some occasions there are players who genuinely clap or salute to signify respect or appreciation for a good fight. I also agree that even without emotes people will stand over you and shoot you in the head or club you with the grenade to signify contempt just because they can and they are stupid.
However it amazes me how butt hurt PvP players on the forum get for being called scum or told that the Division is a social experiment that mirrors their behaviour in real life and yet they see no issue with all the taunting, abusive comments and basically anti-social behaviour that goes on in the DZ. If 'anything goes' in the DZ does it become acceptable for me to drop the "N-bomb" on any black person who happens to be playing? I personally don't think so and yet in a real apocalypse I highly doubt that this sort of language wouldn't exist. However if I go into the DZ for a little PvP fun, I am expected to tolerate being called a "c*nt" and a "fa**ot" just because I killed a rogue (which is playing the game as it was intended to be played) and his friend took offence.
It is 'just a game', and I don't really want to hear that sort of talk over the mic anymore than a lot of you want to tolerate racial slurs or being called scum because you choose to PvP over PvE. If no-one can accept that point of view and wants to call me a care bear and crybaby for bringing it up, perhaps the moderators can tell PvP players to just "man up" and accept it when you get called scum or are classified as social miscreants on the forum. What's the difference?
If it is just a game, there should be a bit of mutual respect and if players are incapable of showing that respect all I am saying is that perhaps we shouldn't give them the opportunity to act that way.
Would removing proximity chat unless you specifically turn it on break the game? Would a lack of emotes break the game? Would it be that bad if we just automatically went to a black screen with a respawning choice after death and ran down our timer in the checkpoint or safe house?
There are a lot of things in this game that need fixing but it still amazes me that a group of supposedly educated intelligent individuals still cannot see that a lot of people left because the DZ is on the whole a toxic environment. People can accept that going into the DZ involves PvP. It shouldn't have to but a lot of people accept it nonetheless. But a lot of us don't accept that we should have to put up with the sort of comments and behaviour we get just for playing an element of the game as it was intended to be played. And if you can't accept that then as I said above, perhaps some of you shouldn't be getting upset about being called scum just because you choose to engage in PvP. You can't have it both ways.