It's clear PvP is the end-game, but as of now it's more frustrating than fun...
So before entering the DZ let us choose which faction we want to join, Agents or Rogues.
This way we'll get rid of: incidentally going rogue, 4vs1 "fights", spawnkilling, the trick with 1 non rogue shielding a team of rogues and maybe something I've not thought of yet.
Show the friendlies on the minimap and leave the hostiles invisible unless pulsed.
Turn off friendly fire (just like PvE) and leave the rest as it is.
If you want to change faction you have to enter a checkpoint and join a new server.
You mention the idea of DZ Factions – I like that idea and have built upon this a little bit.
PvP has always had good vs evil, dark vs light, players vs monsters and so forth yet here in TD, we have Agents vs NPCs vs Rogues and that is it. Why not add a 3rd playable option – Let us play as the LMB???
At the starting character screen, you have a 5th toon – your LMB DZ toon.
The DZ is our only playground. We start with a maxed out Lv30 toon - we create them just like we do right now and they are equipped with purple gear. Our grind is to do certain daily & weekly HVTs, some daily quests and just try to kill anything within the DZ. This allows us to rank up, collect funds and more.
LMB NPCs do not attack us but any other NPC like Rikers, Rioters, Cleaners will most certainly attack and they give us drops just like in the open world. We collect gear and have the same RNG for all the same gear sets, weapons, and mods. We just do not need to extract the items.
This also means that Agents will have a clear enemy as well as Rogues to contend with in the DZ.
As for Devs having to add much to make this happen – I not sure as I am not a programmer but surely, most will already be there when I say we can use the same weapons, mods, gear sets but just need different safe houses locations, a single Base of Operation to work out of within the DZ (this could be in the UG tunnels and we use those tunnels to move around). This BoO would need to be built up just like the open world BoO by running certain missions.
This then means there is a 3rd option in the DZ at killing players and could lead to some great fights and even more expansion on a later date. Raids could even take place over the entire DZ as you would have 2 sides of a known quantity fighting and the Rogues to add a little spice to it as well. It, also, allows even further expansion by adding the other factions (Rioters, Cleaners etc) as player controlled toons if you wish.
These LMB toons would only play within the confines of the DZ. Any loot or funds collected on this single DZ toon stays 100% on this toon and cannot be shared across to the other account wide toons that the player may have.
Having an opposite side will clearly improve PvP as this would be a fun factor as I know many players would love to play LMB...
Sorry for the wall of text as well
What's the problem? It's a 12vs12 and I can shoot the other team without giving them the initial advantage...Originally Posted by Nopvedz4you Go to original post
I really like your idea!! Best post of the day!Originally Posted by brav0limadelta Go to original post
No problem at all, all I'm getting at is players like me will always choose rogue over non rogue, so the better players will mostly be on the rogue side, I don't think letting us choose factions would work.Originally Posted by Nopvedz4you Go to original post
haha let me guess, you are one of those who stay at checkpoint with 2 groups and wait for 1 bad guy ? even if im not perfectly right, tell me how far wrong am i ?Originally Posted by brav0limadelta Go to original postyou guys cry so hard. what about Free DZ tissues after you are done with crying ? there was 3 group of ppl yesterday who would just look at each other and wait for 1 poor guy to go rouge.. imagine if dz will be like you ask it for.. there will be zero ations. so plz stick to your PVE content. and leave the DZ to the big boys
A lot.Originally Posted by rasselz Go to original post
In the DZ I try to hunt rogues solo with a sniper build. If I want to farm I join a random group.
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