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    PVP DZ [Pro Mode] - For all hard core players who wants a challenging mode!

    Hey guys!

    I just want to share my idea on what i would like to see in DZ. Some of us wants to have a PVE DZ, which i think is not possible due to the nature of the gameplay inside of the DZ. With this idea, players can choose DZ servers who wants to play PVP but can still get loot and extractions. Let me explain it further;


    PVP Zone [Pro Mode]

    A DZ server where all of your current Gear Sets, Stats and any equipment (including gear stats and talents) you have will be stripped out, except weapons but their talents and stat mods will be removed. All players that will be placed in this server will have the same Stats (Firearms, Stamina, Armor, etc) and electronics and skills will be removed or disabled. This server will be balanced out in terms of NPC scaling based on the default stats on all players, so we will not see any spongy NPCs here. We can still loot and extract in here as the drop rate will be increased. The difference with the current DZ is that all of you are on the same level, NO OP builds, No tank or glass cannon builds, no more 1 shot builds!. Cover will be vital as players can slow down you when they hit you on any parts of your body and deal more damage when you are using cover, so we will not see any running around and hip firing here. (This idea is not mine)
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    Originally Posted by PH.Gammatron016 Go to original post
    Hey guys!

    I just want to share my idea on what i would like to see in DZ. Some of us wants to have a PVE DZ, which i think is not possible due to the nature of the gameplay inside of the DZ. With this idea, players can choose DZ servers who wants to play PVP but can still get loot and extractions. Let me explain it further;


    PVP Zone [Pro Mode]

    A DZ server where all of your current Gear Sets, Stats and any equipment (including gear stats and talents) you have will be stripped out, except weapons but their talents and stat mods will be removed. All players that will be placed in this server will have the same Stats (Firearms, Stamina, Armor, etc) and electronics and skills will be removed or disabled. This server will be balanced out in terms of NPC scaling based on the default stats on all players, so we will not see any spongy NPCs here. We can still loot and extract in here as the drop rate will be increased. The difference with the current DZ is that all of you are on the same level, NO OP builds, No tank or glass cannon builds, no more 1 shot builds!. Cover will be vital as players can slow down you when they hit you on any parts of your body and deal more damage when you are using cover, so we will not see any running around and hip firing here. (This idea is not mine)
    it's called Survival PVP You just have to remove the sepsis and your wish may come true You can't remove skills and electronics, though, because this is not a SHOOTER. It's an RPG with 3rd PS elements, and RPG games are defined by skills. And electronics define the power of your skills. Stop trying to see this game as a 3rd person shooter, because it's not.
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    Originally Posted by Reaper-Two Go to original post
    it's called Survival PVP You just have to remove the sepsis and your wish may come true You can't remove skills and electronics, though, because this is not a SHOOTER. It's an RPG with 3rd PS elements, and RPG games are defined by skills. And electronics define the power of your skills.
    I'm not trying to compare my idea to the survival right now. You see, Survival do already have this mechanics but it still implements gear stats, which still divide the players based on their looted items. On my idea, everyone will be on the same level and there will be no such thing as OP build as everyone are equal in terms of stat distribution. And why are they not going to disable electronics and skills? They can do it if they release a certain content that doesn't require those things. And to correct you, this is a cover-based SHOOTER game, SHOOTER. Its obvious as we need to SHOOT right? RPG? i dont see any RPG in here as everyone are gunners and roles are not implemented yet in here. Everyone are damage dealer and thats why you will not see any roles in here.


    Originally Posted by Reaper-Two Go to original post
    Stop trying to see this game as a 3rd person shooter, because it's not.
    And to correct you also, this is a 3rd Person shooter game. If it is not, what do you call it then?
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    Originally Posted by gX-kiD Go to original post
    lol, so that's the new tactic now, asking for another PVP mode, so you can have the regular DZ for your bot farming walk in the park?

    Jesus, you guys are really desperate....

    ( not gonna happen btw )
    How this become a walk in the park then? clear it out please. also, i'm not sure if bot farming exist. (Correct me if i'm wrong)
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    I hate PvP in this game, but I'd absolutely check it out with your proposals. I also really like building characters, to me it's more fun that this crap game, so that's a deterrent. I think the best thing to do is wait and see what they do with patch 1.6. I propose keeping absolutely everything in the game from stacking exponentially. No more crazy armor, no more 3 million toughness all of a sudden..... stuff like that. They already fixed crit headshots, so now they just have to fix the rest. If they make absolutely everything in the game stack linearly, give a reason to fight cover to cover (impose a movement stagger when hit, increase cof when out of cover and especially moving, increase resistance while in cover) and actually start giving a **** about hackers, I think I'd really like the DZ. But I have serious reservations about their ability, as after a year of player feedback, we're stuck with this ****.



    Originally Posted by Reaper-Two Go to original post
    it's called Survival PVP You just have to remove the sepsis and your wish may come true You can't remove skills and electronics, though, because this is not a SHOOTER. It's an RPG with 3rd PS elements, and RPG games are defined by skills. And electronics define the power of your skills. Stop trying to see this game as a 3rd person shooter, because it's not.
    I agree with not removing skills, that's quite literally 1/3 of your character, and what makes this game unique. But I do think there should be more tactical shooter, and less magic abilities in the game. Look at the problems we have because of the abilities: insane damage boost from running cover to cover, millions of toughness after a click of a button, etc. Stuff like that is just crap in a shooter. And Survival isn't really PvP. You can maybe get lucky and get in a good gunfight, but it's mostly just a race to extract with a chance of seeing someone else. DZ really should be the place to go to fight.
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    Originally Posted by gX-kiD Go to original post
    Correct me if I'm wrong, but to me it sounds like you want the people who like to PVP out of the regular DZ, so you can conveniently farm NPCs, which is what I was referring to with bot farming ( not the best choice of words here .. as a Berlin resident I stayed up all night to follow the **** that was going down here ).
    Well yah, we still have cheaters in this game and we will not see a game without cheaters. I just want to have a PVP only mode where all players are equal and no OP build, just to have a breathing room from what we have now. Looting may change or can be totally removed or loots can be so scarce, just like the drop rate of Barret so everyone can focus on PVP, and loots are just a bonus i think. :P

    This is just an idea, which shouldn't be take seriously. I just like to share ideas, like any people in here.
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    I think there needs to be separate PVP arenas for head to head matches for those who like PVP, either same stats for both players or if you think your build can beat the other guy, so be it.
    Arenas would need to cater for solo upto teams of maybe 8 per team and be on a points system or last man standing basis. Rewards of gear, weapons, phoenix dollars, some for losers of the battle but the big slice to the winners.
    The game has a diverse base and it should be flexible to cater for the needs of the agent players.
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    Originally Posted by PH.Gammatron016 Go to original post
    Well yah, we still have cheaters in this game and we will not see a game without cheaters. I just want to have a PVP only mode where all players are equal and no OP build, just to have a breathing room from what we have now. Looting may change or can be totally removed or loots can be so scarce, just like the drop rate of Barret so everyone can focus on PVP, and loots are just a bonus i think. :P

    This is just an idea, which shouldn't be take seriously. I just like to share ideas, like any people in here.
    All games have cheaters, but they're pretty widespread and blatant about it here. I get what you're saying about wanting everyone to be equal, but that would be so boring, and such a waste of the incredible customization this game has to offer. All that's needed is for the current gaps to be lessened between players, not a complete equalization.
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    Originally Posted by yamxt6002016 Go to original post
    I think there needs to be separate PVP arenas for head to head matches for those who like PVP, either same stats for both players or if you think your build can beat the other guy, so be it.
    Arenas would need to cater for solo upto teams of maybe 8 per team and be on a points system or last man standing basis. Rewards of gear, weapons, phoenix dollars, some for losers of the battle but the big slice to the winners.
    The game has a diverse base and it should be flexible to cater for the needs of the agent players.
    This.

    Not because I want PvP out of the DZ, but I want ACTUAL PvP. I played CS, Quake, BF, ... for 15 years, 10 of that in a competitive environment with LAN's, etc, the current way of PvP is simply not satisfying at all imo. Even when I win it doesn't feel satisfying.
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    Originally Posted by PH.Gammatron016 Go to original post
    Well yah, we still have cheaters in this game and we will not see a game without cheaters. I just want to have a PVP only mode where all players are equal and no OP build, just to have a breathing room from what we have now. Looting may change or can be totally removed or loots can be so scarce, just like the drop rate of Barret so everyone can focus on PVP, and loots are just a bonus i think. :P

    This is just an idea, which shouldn't be take seriously. I just like to share ideas, like any people in here.
    If this is for PC:

    Cheaters would be even more OP if these changes where implemented. Cheating is not about shooting hard or have infinite hp. It's about aim, rpm and wallhacks. (see where everyone is at any time)

    The problem with this game is that RPM and aim is sorted by the client and can easily be adjusted with 3rd party clients.
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