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After already playing until the server kick me out (was in the middle of the match) i must say i am stoned this game new and good, and i mainly playing samurai faction and pick all time hero : Shugoki. a big fella with a big stick and a strength of the demon it self. What i can conclude from this hero is :
1.Scary (the mask is cool, but some mask are very....not scary i thought it will be good if some mask are removed because it look ridiculous, when i get the mask that only fashion moustache i scrap it and i use the original mask. The Shugoki that roughly translated guardian demon should be given a scary mask like oni one not just mask picked random from japan gift shop. ps: forgot the name of the mask so i cant give the detail
2.Need more speed, what i talk is not running speed but the speed of attack animation you almost cant counter with your passive abillity (stance) enemy assassins just spam light attack and you never can stagger them back ps: hate em assassins type, suddenly gank or spam attack button.
3.more resilience : when you first hitted the damage is not so much but when you lose the stance you almost like not wearing any armor. either go with stance speed recovery more faster or make Shugoki more take less damage so he can tank properly
4.Defense about the defense shugoki i must say cant do much, character like conqueror ro Warlords are more reliable in defending them self shugoki in the other hand...i describing it as a chubby target for attacking not intimidating more like "I am here ! attack me free points !
5.Range, the heavy attack is good the range reachable but the fast attack....if you could put some more animation then just shove 2 times and then wait for enemy warlords run to you and headbut you till the end
6.Chain attack : you know maybe make 3 chain attack look at the other counterpart of Shugoki more chain attack and more reliable i almost feel sorry for my Shugoki
7.the Demons emberance : please fix it would you ? enemy infront of me can miss but sometimes enemy not infront of me get grabbed and make him invincible while in the demons emberance please. i always when i already put my meal on top of my shoulder, some nobushi just poke me to dead and my meal run away.
8.Must say overall 8/10 still my favorite hero. If you fix it that will be great ps: i like when he walk he is like intimidating his surounding but yeah i battlefield not so much its like chubby target for poke stab and smash.
disclaimer : purely my opinion and from 2 days of gameplay itself. not so many shugoki on battlefield, the battlefield onyl swarmed with spear type hero and assassins type hero, tank is rare
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So you just want the shugoki to be faster, have more defense, have increased range and become invincible during certain attacks ? I could not participate in the alpha tech test but i think your asking for a lot.
I guess you were facing so many assassins because the overwhelming number of players are still on button-smasher level, so they get a advantage from characters with fast attacks. Once gamers pick up the mechanics i guess you will find strategies to deal with assassins.
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Since you ask let me give you more "deeper" explanation
1.Faster : meaning of faster is crucial faster like i mention is attack animation its up to developer sure how they balance it but if i can make a sugestion i would say make a slightly faster than the normal attack animation more specific the light attack. the light attack speed is almost same like the heavy attack of shugoki. not to mention the animation quite not impresive so its make a disadvantages for him
2.Have more defense : if you play shugoki you will know what i meant, as i already write in my first statement, shugoki have special ability named stance it will make you not flinch from first attack from enemy will it be light attack or heavy one if you lose your stance you take more damage than usual. so whats the point making shugoki a tank if he will take more extra damage from enemy after first attack ? thats why my shugoki almost useless againts assassins type enemy they spam attack and not to mention sometimes they make you bleed if thats not enough. people tend to pick conqueror or Warlord, so shugoki almost become useless, both tank from viking and knight more reliable than shugoki in defense and attack. Although they dont deal more damage than shugoki, they have more freedom move than shugoki thats make shugoki almost doesnt have a chance to shine.
3.Invincible during certain attack : i think i not mention like that maybe you mistaken reading it. maybe what you read it is about "stance" see no 2 for explanation
indeed i almost in every match always have this hero: Nobushi, Lawbringer, Valkyrie, Berserker, Peacekeeper, orochi i even got match with 3 assassins type enemy and 1 hybrid enemy and like you said they just spam light attack and won never can i do any chance to strike back not to mention they move silently and sudenly attack you while you focus for another enemy. and if that,s not good enough they give them bleed ability to make them more annoying. but as i through the gameplay sometimes you can win if you smart not try to outmatch them and spam attack. you also must know how to BLOCK and DASH to win againts this type of enemy and dont afraid to play dirty.
Disclaimer : maybe i ask a lot but for a greater good for now the gameplay is bit unbalanced. even Shugoki got many cool tricks but like what i said above "A big, giant, poke and stab" in the field. if they want to make shugoki intimidating more than now well not only the size and the mask is must scary, but how he survive and walk in the field must be intimidating
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I understand your frustration but I disagree. I played Shugoki a good amount of games and I'll give you my take on him.
1) He's more of an offensive-tank. If you play Overwatch, he's kind of like Roadhog.. a tank that can punish a team for making a bad mistake, but isn't a true tank. The conqueror is a true "tank" but he lacks the offensive potential the Shugoki has. So you have to understand that you can't Shugoki as good as a tank as conqueror WITH the abilities that was given to him. That would make him unstoppable and overshadow the other tanks.
2) when you're up against an assassin that just spams LA, that's when you use your stance to trade with them a Heavy attack. You'll win the trade. When your Stance on cooldown, you either just keep blocking or parry them -> Light attack. You can't rely on spamming light attacks to land hits like assassin's do because that's THEIR strength.. they can spam a bunch of light attacks because they're FAST. YOUR strengths are different. Utilize them. Be patient.
3) Demon's embrace helps with being more "resilient" with that extra HP boost and does damage... but it's risky. Feint your Heavy attack into a Demon's embrace. SHould work sometimes
