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    Release a Survival DZ

    Exclusive for Survival owners of course (I have no Season Pass or Survival DLC)
    cause you like to keep features that should be in the main game exclusive like Underground directives and Incursion

    I have no interest in Survival ( like the overwhelming majority)
    a Groundhog day mode (every day is the same day) played with a level one character
    no progression, some rewards at the end when the main game already throws loot at you for having done nothing valuable

    but it's full of interesting things and it should be a case study "when an entire product is so much worse than the sum of its parts"

    A Survival DZ with:

    - cold mechanic (almost always less aggressive and based on the weather)
    - Hunters attacking randomly after you cleared a landmark and at extractions
    - scaled on teams of 4 players not the (1.4/1.5 DZ joke)

    just using already existing assets but there could be more

    Survival sales are bad will be bad and I hope you are not suprised by that
    it's incredible you can't see what a player can see in a hour
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    Originally Posted by onenightnparis Go to original post
    Exclusive for Survival owners of course (I have no Season Pass or Survival DLC)
    cause you like to keep features that should be in the main game exclusive like Underground directives and Incursion

    I have no interest in Survival ( like the overwhelming majority)
    a Groundhog day mode (every day is the same day) played with a level one character
    no progression, some rewards at the end when the main game already throws loot at you for having done nothing valuable

    but it's full of interesting things and it should be a case study "when an entire product is so much worse than the sum of its parts"

    A Survival DZ with:

    - cold mechanic (almost always less aggressive and based on the weather)
    - Hunters attacking randomly after you cleared a landmark and at extractions
    - scaled on teams of 4 players not the (1.4/1.5 DZ joke)

    just using already existing assets but there could be more

    Survival sales are bad will be bad and I hope you are not suprised by that
    it's incredible you can't see what a player can see in a hour

    So you don't want Survival, but want the game where every day you login and are stripped of all gear previously found just to do it again, that includes Hunters, Cold, and I guess a timer. You do know that is what Survival is right?
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    Originally Posted by onenightnparis Go to original post
    I have no interest in Survival ( like the overwhelming majority)
    Speak for yourself.

    Originally Posted by onenightnparis Go to original post
    but it's full of interesting things

    Originally Posted by onenightnparis Go to original post
    Release a Survival DZ
    Foh with your contradictions.
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    Originally Posted by YodaMan 3D Go to original post
    So you don't want Survival, but want the game where every day you login and are stripped of all gear previously found just to do it again, that includes Hunters, Cold, and I guess a timer. You do know that is what Survival is right?
    and you guess wrong, no timer
    of course current DZ could be improved a lot. it's only 9 months we are asking for activities, randomized spawns and new areas (even copypasted from PvE like sewers)

    cold should have been in the main game since March, its effect should only be dramatic when there's a blizzard.


    Originally Posted by Merphee Go to original post
    Foh with your contradictions.
    Imagine the tyres, the engine and the interiors you like on a genre of car you would never buy
    it's not that hard to understand what I've written
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    Originally Posted by onenightnparis Go to original post
    and you guess wrong, no timer
    of course current DZ could be improved a lot. it's only 9 months we are asking for activities, randomized spawns and new areas (even copypasted from PvE like sewers)

    cold should have been in the main game since March, its effect should only be dramatic when there's a blizzard.




    Imagine the tyres, the engine and the interiors you like on a genre of car you would never buy
    it's not that hard to understand what I've written

    Nobody has disagreed with you. From what I read it sounds like you want the DZ to be just like Survival, just without the timer. AKA Survival, just keep medicated.
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    Originally Posted by YodaMan 3D Go to original post
    Nobody has disagreed with you. From what I read it sounds like you want the DZ to be just like Survival, just without the timer. AKA Survival, just keep medicated.
    No BS crafting and looting not just no timer
    no timer cause there's no reason to have a timer in the DZ but timer is the last of Survival's problems

    - I already have winter clothes, I don't want to spend time to find resources and craft them (cause it's boring)
    - no disease (NPCs shotgunners and snipers can be the disease)
    - no hunger (cause it makes no sense, checkpoints, BoO...)
    - no thirst (cause it makes no sense, checkpoints, BoO...)

    - no green guns and gear, I already have equipment (I want 1.3 terminators not playing as a level one character)
    also which developer introduce a new enemy with a lower level? (even if in that game-mode the player has level 30 gear too)

    - I don't want to have to matchmake with other 23 to play (cause it takes time also good luck trying to play Survival in a month)
    - I don't want the blizzard all the time (I already play in the dark it's hard even to see my character in the night in low light areas, blizzard all day long no).
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