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    Ubi/Massive question about Savage Gloves & Barrets Chest

    Hey,

    I am putting together a D3-FNC set and the 4th bonus says:

    Talent | Allows using an SMG if one is equipped when Ballistic Shield is deployed. SMG Crit Chance is reduced to 0%

    Savage Gloves say:

    Savage: Your Critical hit chance is increased by 7% against targets out of cover

    Now i have read some say that the Savage Gloves work with D3-FNC so my questions are...

    • Is this intentional?
    • Or is this going to be removed so that they do not work with D3-FNC?

    Reason i ask is because i don't want to build/re-calibrate stuff only to find out later it's going to be removed, plus i could replace them with D3-FNC gloves and change another piece that would be beneficial to the build, lets say Tenacious mask.

    Barrets Chestpiece says:

    No skills on cooldown increases skill power by 10%
    One skill on cooldown increases damage by 5%
    Two skills on cooldown increases armour by 10%


    Forgive me if this is a stupid question but i have to ask....

    When Ballistic Shield skill is active which is 99% of the time how does this effect the above? I understand that if i use lets say Booster Shot that the skill will be on cooldown and "One skill on cooldown increases damage by 5%" will kick in.

    I am just trying to figure out how Barret's Chestpiece bonus's work when Ballistic Shield & Booster Shot are equipped as skills

    Looking forward to hearing from you.
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    Frontline and CHC not sure if you give exact wording, if yes. Frontline removes SMG CHC but gloves add CHC for you, not for your SMG, so if I read it as writen, then it is correct, you get CHC from gloves on your SMG with shield deployed, but I cant guess that is intentional or not.


    And Barrets vest. Shield goes to cooldown only when it is destroyed or you finish use it. So deployed shiend do not trigger "skill on cooldown"
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    Also as of right now The talent precision and the skill pulse also give you Critical chance while using FNC gear with a shield out. I would also like to Know if this is intentional.
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    You really don't need Barret chest on D3-FNC set, it does nothing good to you. Your shield is always on and you are using your 2nd skill all the time so all you get from Barret chest is the 10% more armor - which you don't need at all with the set. You're much better of running other chests with the set.
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    Originally Posted by Aaron_Clover Go to original post
    You really don't need Barret chest on D3-FNC set, it does nothing good to you. Your shield is always on and you are using your 2nd skill all the time so all you get from Barret chest is the 10% more armor - which you don't need at all with the set. You're much better of running other chests with the set.
    Wrong..... you get 10% More skill power with no skills on cool down with the Shield deployed you have no skills on cool down. if you use a heal you're getting 5% damage. If your shield is destroyed and you've used to heal you will have added armor while waiting for cooldowns. Having 10% more skill power Is something you want with an FNC build as It boosts your shields health
    and the bonus damage you get.

    Having your shield deployed does not put it on cool down only when it
    is destroyed does it go on cool down.
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    Originally Posted by Old_Mufasa Go to original post
    Wrong..... you get 10% More skill power with no skills on cool down with the Shield deployed you have no skills on cool down. if you use a heal you're getting 5% damage. If your shield is destroyed and you've used to heal you will have added armor while waiting for cooldowns. Having 10% more skill power Is something you want with an FNC build as It boosts your shields health
    and the bonus damage you get.

    Having your shield deployed does not put it on cool down only when it
    is destroyed does it go on cool down.
    150k skillpower is easy to reach with the set without sacrificing any gear rolls to electronics, you don't need the extra 10% skillpower.

    + Skillpower can be boosted to insane level with right talents - my active skillpower is constantly almost 190-200K - And without any electronic rolls on gear. All you need is electronics gear mods.

    Edit: and this just my playstyle, if you like barret chest 5% more damage fine, I don't. I take Reckless over it any day - as Reckless really has no penalties with the d3 set - Or rapid chest and spam Booster shot all the time, 10% more damage and damage resistance constantly, better than Barret.
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    Originally Posted by Aaron_Clover Go to original post
    150k skillpower is easy to reach with the set without sacrificing any gear rolls to electronics, you don't need the extra 10% skillpower.

    + Skillpower can be boosted to insane level with right talents - my active skillpower is constantly almost 190-200K - And without any electronic rolls on gear. All you need is electronics gear mods.

    Edit: and this just my playstyle, if you like barret chest 5% more damage fine, I don't. I take Reckless over it any day - as Reckless really has no penalties with the d3 set - Or rapid chest and spam Booster shot all the time, 10% more damage and damage resistance constantly, better than Barret.
    Look you said "You really don't need Barret chest on D3-FNC set, it does nothing good to you" and that statement is totally false.. you can back pedal all you want... Also reckless does effect you.. its just you have more survivability then any other build to off set it when running FNC.. but it does effect you.

    It's not about 5% damage.. its more skill power when you need it.. more damage when are being pressured and need to heal your shield and your self.. and added armor if you some how lose your shield.. to say it does nothing for you is totally bogus claim.

    On the same front I can invest more into other stats because I have 10% skill power almost all the time.. that door swings both ways. Barrets is one of if not thee most versatile chest armors in the game.
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    What i am thinking of doing is replace Barret's with Reckless and roll my MP5 with Destructive+Responsive+Competent

    Reckless + Competent + Booster Shot = Decent damage buff.

    Just need clarification if Savage gloves are working as intended.
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    Originally Posted by Old_Mufasa Go to original post
    Look you said "You really don't need Barret chest on D3-FNC set, it does nothing good to you" and that statement is totally false.. you can back pedal all you want... Also reckless does effect you.. its just you have more survivability then any other build to off set it when running FNC.. but it does effect you.

    It's not about 5% damage.. its more skill power when you need it.. more damage when are being pressured and need to heal your shield and your self.. and added armor if you some how lose your shield.. to say it does nothing for you is totally bogus claim.

    On the same front I can invest more into other stats because I have 10% skill power almost all the time.. that door swings both ways. Barrets is one of if not thee most versatile chest armors in the game.
    That extra 10% skillpower is good yes - when you don't have it much. I have so much skillpower that it does really nothing good to me - That is 174800 K skillpower always (Talented). With Death by Proxy I go to 200K - I really don't need that Barret chest for PvE. My shield is already strong as hell - I prefer having more damage constantly either from Pulse or Booster shot.

    And I heal my shield with med kits since that Combat Medic is so ridiculously strong. And medkits drop everywhere.
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    Originally Posted by Aaron_Clover Go to original post
    That extra 10% skillpower is good yes - when you don't have it much. I have so much skillpower that it does really nothing good to me - That is 174800 K skillpower always (Talented). With Death by Proxy I go to 200K - I really don't need that Barret chest for PvE. My shield is already strong as hell - I prefer having more damage constantly either from Pulse or Booster shot.

    And I heal my shield with med kits since that Combat Medic is so ridiculously strong. And medkits drop everywhere.
    I think you're missing my point.. all I was calling out was the false claim of "it does nothing good to you" that you claimed... I know there are other builds and gear setups.. but to say it does nothing for a FNC build is what I took issue with.. as Barret chest synergy's well with FNC builds.. in no way was I saying it was the only way.

    Also running pulse or booster shot or running persuasion talent has nothing to do with what chest you're wearing be it reckless or Barrets. There are so many builds with FNC you can do.. high firearms and skill, all tank with skill and stam.. a more even build with 5k,5k,4.5k build... with the shield it makes it pretty versatile.
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