1.5 needs serious fixing, this is worse than alpha/beta | Forums

[Cons72]

They seem to have a stock build they revert to after major patches,explains the loss of fixes and the huge download.

Like not getting any safehouses with bonus intel missions for instance?

That is just one off the top of my head that they said was fixed, but showed up again after 1.4, if not before.

[Cons72]

Op,

You have not played with the Frontline set much?

You do know that when you take cover while the shield is active you cannot use your secondary gun if it is other than smg.

And no, npc's don't shoot through it. You are most likely being shot from sides and behind. Always position yourself correctly with it.

If you want to use your ar, sniper whatever with the set then throw the shield out. Shield is always active when you deploy it to the point where it gets destroyed or you unequip it (the shield goes to vooldown).

I've been playing nothing but Frontline. I know every trick and tip on how to play it, how to build it and how to roll with it.

There is o ly one bug right now with it and that is gun jamming (all guns jam). I don't know yet for sure how that jam is produced but luckily it's very rare bug.

My understanding is there is still a bug that shows you have the shield deployed and the game does not actually think/act as if it is deployed. They had said they fixed that, but reports since 1.4 have said it still happens.

[Turis8]

I have played the set a lot, well as much as you can play it a lot, since it just came out.

Give it a try yourself, sometimes you can pull the secondary gun or our sidearm when in cover, yes, even when the shield is active. That was my whole point, just try it yourself before getting condescending.

And this is clearly a bug, and my question was, what the intended behaviour is.

By the way, NPCs have defininitely been shooting through my shield, maybe you should try to understand the nature of bugs. Just because you are not experiencing it yourself, or maybe you just haven't noticed, this doesn't mean the bug doesn't exist, that's just a totally ignorant statement.

I haven't played anything else than Frontline set, experimenting with on daily basis 4-5 hours a day. NPC's have never shot through it, I have never died with the shield up. I do take damage with the shield up but that damage comes from angles or behind - npc's cannot damage me from the front - ever. NPC only has to be on 2 o'clock or 1 o'clock (depending which hand holds the shield) in front of you and he can shoot your body, maybe that's why you feel like it's coming straight through.

I've been doing those cover moves too with the shield - never have been able to use my AR which has always been my secondary from the get-go (unless I throw my shield out). Only bug that I have encountered is the total gun jam - probably related to those cover moves or one-is-none talent.

[Turis8]

Dude, I work in software testing for 6 years now, I don't go easy on the word "bug", but there are bugs with this set, and I am definitely able at times to switch to my other guns, when in cover and shield active. And the post above yours describes the shooting through the shield bug very well, that's exactly what I experienced.

And I totally forgot about the gun jam, I need to relog when that happens.

But when I turn and face the npc like you are supposed to with the shield I take no damage anymore. So damage really does not come through the shield. NPC needs and angle to you to harm you. They cannot damage you from the front.

[FilteredName]

I think its pretty clear the devs working on game are not the ones who made game, wasn't it 4 different groups that made game?

My problem with bug / glitch / exploit / cheat's, is we don't know if they are being worked on or not, we have no idea how the dev team is instructed at all, maybe the boss has them working on other things in the game then what we all see as problems.

What bothers me is I cant see this game going in a upward direction, every single patch has made more issues, each patch I hope for a fix of all ready known issues, not more new issues. if just one patch came out and made game better I'd be real happy.

I know this game made Massive big bucks, they need to really hire some extra help or maybe get a few of the dev's who made game to help for a couple weeks to straighten this out.

[Turis8]

It's ok man, you don't want to understand how bugs work, keep on believing whatever it is you want to believe, I tried my best.

And you really should know how to move with the shield, I tried too. Mind your surroundings.

[Turis8]

See the thing is, you are often acting here like you are the elite player himself and everybody else in this forum is your regular filthy casual.

I play this game since Beta, I am DZ lvl 99 with my main char, and even my pve char is around 40 or 50. I clocked almost 500hrs into this game, do you really think I don't know that enemies can shoot me from the side? Do you even realize how ignorant and condescending you sound?

It's a bug, if you haven't experienced it, great for you, but there have been countless bugs with this shield since the release of the game. At some point you could even shoot with your primary weapon and the shield up, long before the frontline set.

1350 hours spent, not elite - veteran. If I can't get damage through the shield then there clearly is something wrong how you play with it. I can stand in front of riker/lmb heavies and never take damage with the shield up - I have tested this, more than dozen of times, every day. I know where the damage comes to me when I get damage and adjust my position accordingly.

[joelsantos24]

Are any of you guys finding any bugs with the access to the Stash or Restock stations, at DZ checkpoints? Whenever I leave a friend's session inside a checkpoint and return to my own, I can never access the Stash or restock there, I have to fast travel to another checkpoint or the Base. Also, I'm no longer able to set any waypoints towards any main mission icon on the map, it doesn't let me.

[Turis8]

Thanks for confirming, that you don't understand how bugs work. No worries, most people don't get it.

Maybe I'll record some shield videos for you. You simply don't understand 360 degrees around you. Shield only protects 100% from the front. Give the npc angle and you'll take damage - Facetank straight - no damage.

Also remember that npc's on elevated position can shoot your head. Don't give 'em that.

[MalibuMafiaV]

I left on 1.3.... I came back in 1.5 and I'm loving it.