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    Will guns ever get truly balanced

    For so long now guns have been extremely poor.

    You have SMG over here that are just straight garbage now. I tried a MP5 I got that had Deadly, Destructive, ferocious and the thing in just terrible.

    Assault rifles still suck. Burst weapons have like more recoil then a fully automatic gun and dont do nearly enough damage for a burst weapon. Burst weapons should easily have a way higher base damage then most guns in the game.

    The High rate of fire guns like Famas just aren't worth using they don't do nearly enough damage and have just way to much recoil even if you spec into recoil control.

    All weapons have this annoying RNG recoil built in which makes controlling guns extremely annoying. One minute you can be shooting and your gun recoil will go up right, then all a sudden it starts going left then right then up center. Like it doesn't have a set recoil pattern like it should so people can control their guns better.

    AK variants really need to do more damage. So AK-47, RPK, AK-74 etc... they have to low of damage for a slow rate of fire weapon
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    I can never tell if you're serious.

    I have a couple ARs that do 100k+ headshots on elites and I'm still like gs 244.
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    Originally Posted by ejnt Go to original post
    I can never tell if you're serious.

    I have a couple ARs that do 100k+ headshots on elites and I'm still like gs 244.
    Im serious about everything. Ill be even more serious when I start talking about the bullet sponge in this game still.
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    Originally Posted by xWTOx SkiLLz Go to original post
    Im serious about everything. Ill be even more serious when I start talking about the bullet sponge in this game still.
    Where is there bullet sponge? when you play in a group of 4 people with terrible dps? Nothing besides a couple of the named/bosses should take more than a mag per person.

    Aren't you the same person who thinks there is an NPC that can one shot?
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    Originally Posted by ejnt Go to original post
    Where is there bullet sponge? when you play in a group of 4 people with terrible dps? Nothing besides a couple of the named/bosses should take more than a mag per person.

    Aren't you the same person who thinks there is an NPC that can one shot?
    Im the same person that speaks logic
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    Originally Posted by xWTOx SkiLLz Go to original post
    Im the same person that speaks logic
    Could you link the thread where that happened?

    Nothing one shots. Tell me where it happened, Im willing to bet that it was a lag issue. None of the snipers can pull it off. An elite 34 does maybe 50k through 40% armor.

    I'll admit, I have no idea how they scaled enemy hp as a % with group member #. I'd be shocked if it was much more than 100% per person. That means they expect everyone in your group to do their job.
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    So SMGs and ARs both are terrible and all weapons have too much recoil... Wouldn't that make it balanced? I mean if all weapons are equally terrible they are indeed balanced.

    Ofc ARs are now widely regarded as the best category of weapons but that's beside the point here.

    As for NPCs being too spongy... It's just you mate. I'm at 248 and with much room for improvement and NPCs last less than a clip of my terrible MP5s.
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    Originally Posted by LepantoESP Go to original post
    So SMGs and ARs both are terrible and all weapons have too much recoil... Wouldn't that make it balanced? I mean if all weapons are equally terrible they are indeed balanced.

    Ofc ARs are now widely regarded as the best category of weapons but that's beside the point here.

    As for NPCs being too spongy... It's just you mate. I'm at 248 and with much room for improvement and NPCs last less than a clip of my terrible MP5s.
    Try 4 man group play and tell me NPC aren't spongy. I will never understand the logic massive has when it comes to NPC. Gun fights are supposed to be fun not you spraying magazine into 1 NPC. The fights you encounter with the hunters are fun. Actually make the game what its supposed to be offers a real challenge with out bullet sponge, you need to use tactics and all that to take them out not sit there and spray into them.
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    Originally Posted by xWTOx SkiLLz Go to original post
    Try 4 man group play and tell me NPC aren't spongy. I will never understand the logic massive has when it comes to NPC. Gun fights are supposed to be fun not you spraying magazine into 1 NPC. The fights you encounter with the hunters are fun. Actually make the game what its supposed to be offers a real challenge with out bullet sponge, you need to use tactics and all that to take them out not sit there and spray into them.
    They have to balance it with group size. If they didn't, it would be a joke.
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    Originally Posted by xWTOx SkiLLz Go to original post
    Try 4 man group play and tell me NPC aren't spongy. I will never understand the logic massive has when it comes to NPC. Gun fights are supposed to be fun not you spraying magazine into 1 NPC. The fights you encounter with the hunters are fun. Actually make the game what its supposed to be offers a real challenge with out bullet sponge, you need to use tactics and all that to take them out not sit there and spray into them.
    I ONLY ever play in groups.

    Now tell me again why if all guns are equally terrible they are not balanced?
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