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    Infamous 1 Shot NPC are Back

    NPC shotgunners 1 shot.

    NPC snipers 1 shot

    Grenade Spamming is real (still never understood why they wont put a cooldown on the NPC)

    Assault NPC pretty much kill in 3 shots again

    *Sigh* Tier 5 feels like 1.3 all over you dont run toughness your done. And right now I have 53% Armor with 120k health and still drop like nothing.

    Figures they didn't fix the level 34 NPC I hate to see when 35 NPC are reintroduced.

    Oh and also the bullet sponge is back to takes a whole mag to drop 1 NPC lol im tired of this. They even had people giving this same feedback in the PTS and they didn't fix any of it.
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    Herein lies the problem with this community.

    Day 1 of a new patch and a new GS and you are complaining that you cant run head first into NPCs

    This game is a cover based shooter....

    So use cover, and gear up for the fight...
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    Originally Posted by xWTOx SkiLLz Go to original post
    120k health and still drop like nothing.
    Its cuz such number is nothing. 150k+ is minimum u need. In 1.4 i had 150k, now i have 200k+.
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    Originally Posted by xWTOx SkiLLz Go to original post
    NPC shotgunners 1 shot.

    NPC snipers 1 shot

    Grenade Spamming is real (still never understood why they wont put a cooldown on the NPC)

    Assault NPC pretty much kill in 3 shots again

    *Sigh* Tier 5 feels like 1.3 all over you dont run toughness your done. And right now I have 53% Armor with 120k health and still drop like nothing.

    Figures they didn't fix the level 34 NPC I hate to see when 35 NPC are reintroduced.

    Oh and also the bullet sponge is back to takes a whole mag to drop 1 NPC lol im tired of this. They even had people giving this same feedback in the PTS and they didn't fix any of it.
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    Originally Posted by mattrickl06 Go to original post
    Herein lies the problem with this community.
    Originally Posted by mattrickl06 Go to original post

    Day 1 of a new patch and a new GS and you are complaining that you cant run head first into NPCs

    This game is a cover based shooter....

    So use cover, and gear up for the fight...
    Exactly. It's what we've been saying for a long time. Everyone wants to steamroll every piece of content and do so solo, no less. Even more worrying, they have horrible builds and no problem in admitting it, they don't use cover at all, and they just want to rush and melt every single NPC with only a few shots. But somehow, the game is the problem. Go figure.
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    Originally Posted by Solidus... Go to original post
    Its cuz such number is nothing. 150k+ is minimum u need. In 1.4 i had 150k, now i have 200k+.
    The fact that I have like 280k Toughness and still drop then something needs to be fixed. Didn't have this problem with tier 4. Its literally back to 1.3. you need to play tier 5 to get the new loot but your old gear barely even stands up in there. Its like they want you to play survival to get your gear since nothing matters in there.

    But trying to play stuff like Warren gate with old gear just doesn't really cut it.

    Again I have decent gear right now gear score 256, 280k toughness, 250k DPS, with 53% Damage mitigation. Like really how much more can people improve. Its literally back to 1.3 you really need to run all stamina again
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    Originally Posted by mattrickl06 Go to original post
    Herein lies the problem with this community.

    Day 1 of a new patch and a new GS and you are complaining that you cant run head first into NPCs

    This game is a cover based shooter....

    So use cover, and gear up for the fight...
    Exactly our gear ain't even optimised yet and people are complaining, op use to complain about heroic so it's no surprise he's here complaining about tier 5.
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    Originally Posted by xWTOx SkiLLz Go to original post
    The fact that I have like 280k Toughness and still drop then something needs to be fixed. Didn't have this problem with tier 4. Its literally back to 1.3. you need to play tier 5 to get the new loot but your old gear barely even stands up in there. Its like they want you to play survival to get your gear since nothing matters in there.

    But trying to play stuff like Warren gate with old gear just doesn't really cut it.

    Again I have decent gear right now gear score 256, 280k toughness, 250k DPS, with 53% Damage mitigation. Like really how much more can people improve. Its literally back to 1.3 you really need to run all stamina again
    Good. Then use cover. Use skills more intelligently. Use crowd control skills, in order to control rushers. Use different weapons for close, mid and long range.

    And in my humble opinion, 280.000 Toughness is below average. Only the really aggressive, confrontational players use that kind of balance, in order to favor DPS, and they only use those builds whenever in a team with Support players around. So yeah, if things are more challenging, and you're one of those multiplayer-phobics, then invest in Toughness and survivability.
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    Originally Posted by joelsantos24 Go to original post
    Good. Then use cover. Use skills more intelligently. Use crowd control skills, in order to control rushers. Use different weapons for close, mid and long range.

    And in my humble opinion, 280.000 Toughness is below average. Only the really aggressive, confrontational players use that kind of balance, in order to favor DPS, and they only use those builds whenever in a team with Support players around. So yeah, if things are more challenging, and you're one of those multiplayer-phobics, then invest in Toughness and survivability.
    Also I've found that getting Health on Kill on your gear and weapons is a good idea as well.
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    Originally Posted by xWTOx SkiLLz Go to original post
    The fact that I have like 280k Toughness and still drop then something needs to be fixed. Didn't have this problem with tier 4. Its literally back to 1.3. you need to play tier 5 to get the new loot but your old gear barely even stands up in there. Its like they want you to play survival to get your gear since nothing matters in there.

    But trying to play stuff like Warren gate with old gear just doesn't really cut it.

    Again I have decent gear right now gear score 256, 280k toughness, 250k DPS, with 53% Damage mitigation. Like really how much more can people improve. Its literally back to 1.3 you really need to run all stamina again
    Honestly 280K toughness isnt that good.....for 1.4.

    280K now is glass cannon. I think people need tombe above 400K toughness to even think about being considered tanky. Im at 470K now, it wasnt even that difficult to get to, and and I was still able to unlock the most expensive firearms gun talents (Brutal, Responsive) on my weapons. Basically you need to allocate your points better....280K isnt going to cut it unless youre going for a sniper build and you have a group to protect you.
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    Originally Posted by Zathras23 Go to original post
    Also I've found that getting Health on Kill on your gear and weapons is a good idea as well.
    Yeah, and especially for solo players.

    Originally Posted by S3anS3an Go to original post
    Honestly 280K toughness isnt that good.....for 1.4.

    280K now is glass cannon. I think people need tombe above 400K toughness to even think about being considered tanky. Im at 470K now, it wasnt even that difficult to get to, and and I was still able to unlock the most expensive firearms gun talents (Brutal, Responsive) on my weapons. Basically you need to allocate your points better....280K isnt going to cut it unless youre going for a sniper build and you have a group to protect you.
    Exactly. I was using such build, with my DeadEye gear. The bottom line is, if you're a very confrontational player and like to use less cover than recommended, then you definitely need a team along with you.

    Considering the data he provided, I assume he's most likely a solo, confrontational player. And those statistics he mentioned aren't really that good, not for the context of 1.4 as a whole, nor for a solo experience, by definition. Now, imagine 1.5.

    He definitely needs to team up and get more gear, and more importantly, he needs to make a few recalibrations on what he has now.
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