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    i'm not sure i understand the point of this thread. i assumed "discussion" meant the mods or dev team would have some comments, looks like its just another thread for us to complain about Midnight Circuit.

    I mean, it isnt necessarily a bad thing, but is this thread anymore useful than the four others?
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    Hi everyone!

    To give you a quick and exciting update on Midnight Circuit - it's going to be in the game permanently and has officially got its place in the village, right between the Bunker and world map! Cam will be back with her challenges soon!

    We appreciate your suggestions/ideas & opinions mentioned in this thread, do keep posting them.
    I’ll try to address all the problems separately below.

    As per me, there are 4 main issues with the Midnight Circuit that all of us have been discussing -
    - Rewards
    - Cheaters
    - Retry counts
    - Missed tracks


    Rewards


    Originally Posted by Trials-Khan.TFG Go to original post
    Hey!! This midnight circuit is a great event but here in the facebook TFG group some of the members including me faced very bad problems. Although we ranked on the top 1% of the leaderboard we got very bad rewards. Try solving this please.
    Originally Posted by freddie3000 Go to original post
    I love the event but the rewards are too random. I've been in the top 10% all 3 weeks and the first week was good because I got 2 new Mantis paintjobs, a clothing part and 2 parts. But the last 2 weeks all I've had is parts. People keep talking about new tracks but I've not had 1 and doubt I will in the 4th week. So in all it's a good idea but the rewards distribution isn't working.
    Originally Posted by flooodi-TFG Go to original post
    top 1% was mentioned that they have incedible change of unigue prizes... I don't call parts as unigue...
    3x top1% and all i got is 2 tracks, 1 headhunter head peace and rest 12 prizes were PARTS! but maybe they are unique parts?

    Originally Posted by dutscher-DE Go to original post
    so far i like the midnight circuit, but the randomness is still to random.
    if we get paintjobs their we already have, or 3 weeks no new track for a 1% guy is still to random.

    kick the cheater in their ***!

    cheers

    Originally Posted by xitooner Go to original post
    (response pulled from my other posts)

    Main issue has always been the randomness of rewards; the fear (justified so far in this event) that you can play the best you can, and not be rewarded for the effort. That you can literally BE THE BEST, and not get track rewards that others far less skillful get.

    Originally Posted by MetalGearMk3 Go to original post
    I liked the event but the way the prizes work suck I was in the top 1% every week and got only 2 tracks and a bunch of parts now I know why everybody cheats to get tracks

    The reward distribution was based on categories of prizes based on your rank and trophy. A few of you in the top 1% on the weekly leaderboard(s) did not receive the desired rewards. Let me explain the reward system to you guys –

    The top 1% had the highest chances of receiving tracks, paint jobs, and blueprints as rewards. For those who owned the paint jobs/outfits/bike blueprints in the reward list, the system would have searched for other rewards in the list. The same goes for all the players with the reward type depending on the players’ achievement in that particular week.

    This system may not have worked too well for some of you. The reward system for similar events in the future will be a lot better as we'll try to fix the rewards for different percentage slabs, where possible.
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    Hi everyone!

    To give you a quick and exciting update on Midnight Circuit - it's going to be in the game permanently and has officially got its place in the village, right between the Bunker and world map! Cam will be back with her challenges soon!

    We appreciate your suggestions/ideas & opinions mentioned in this thread, do keep posting them.
    I’ll try to address all the problems separately below.

    As per me, there are 4 main issues with the Midnight Circuit that all of us have been discussing -
    - Rewards
    - Cheaters
    - Retry counts
    - Missed tracks


    Rewards


    Originally Posted by Trials-Khan.TFG Go to original post
    Hey!! This midnight circuit is a great event but here in the facebook TFG group some of the members including me faced very bad problems. Although we ranked on the top 1% of the leaderboard we got very bad rewards. Try solving this please.
    Originally Posted by freddie3000 Go to original post
    I love the event but the rewards are too random. I've been in the top 10% all 3 weeks and the first week was good because I got 2 new Mantis paintjobs, a clothing part and 2 parts. But the last 2 weeks all I've had is parts. People keep talking about new tracks but I've not had 1 and doubt I will in the 4th week. So in all it's a good idea but the rewards distribution isn't working.
    Originally Posted by flooodi-TFG Go to original post
    top 1% was mentioned that they have incedible change of unigue prizes... I don't call parts as unigue...
    3x top1% and all i got is 2 tracks, 1 headhunter head peace and rest 12 prizes were PARTS! but maybe they are unique parts?

    Originally Posted by dutscher-DE Go to original post
    so far i like the midnight circuit, but the randomness is still to random.
    if we get paintjobs their we already have, or 3 weeks no new track for a 1% guy is still to random.

    kick the cheater in their ***!

    cheers

    Originally Posted by xitooner Go to original post
    (response pulled from my other posts)

    Main issue has always been the randomness of rewards; the fear (justified so far in this event) that you can play the best you can, and not be rewarded for the effort. That you can literally BE THE BEST, and not get track rewards that others far less skillful get.

    Originally Posted by MetalGearMk3 Go to original post
    I liked the event but the way the prizes work suck I was in the top 1% every week and got only 2 tracks and a bunch of parts now I know why everybody cheats to get tracks

    The reward distribution was based on categories of prizes based on your rank and trophy. A few of you in the top 1% on the weekly leaderboard(s) did not receive the desired rewards. Let me explain the reward system to you guys –

    The top 1% had the highest chances of receiving tracks, paint jobs, and blueprints as rewards. For those who owned the paint jobs/outfits/bike blueprints in the reward list, the system would have searched for other rewards in the list. The same goes for all the players with the reward type depending on the players’ achievement in that particular week.

    This system may not have worked too well for some of you. The reward system for similar events in the future will be a lot better as we'll try to fix the rewards for different percentage slabs, where possible.
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    Cheaters



    Originally Posted by Mozart08-TFG Go to original post
    The winner of week 2 on android was a Cheater.
    Its really bad.
    this last week i'm fight against gtdave for the first place.
    So One cheater came on your bike super fast and beat us for 2 seconds, or maybe for a half seconds.
    I think the redlynx need a way to check the speed of the bikes, if the max is 10, a bike running on 11 must be removed.
    The Android Platform has a lot of Cheaters and its no use Monthly foruns if the Cheaters keeps.
    The track "Torn Canyon" will be realeased 30 days from now and a lot of Cheaters Already played this track.
    Is too much to ask?
    Originally Posted by Bonxy Go to original post
    The cheaters are becoming a big issue in trying to keep the leaderboards clean.

    Its not like its hard to track them. Here is torn canyon leaderboard at the moment - http://trials.bonxy.net/tracks/Torn+Canyon


    We believe in Leaderboard integrity as much as all of you, and we banned cheaters once you reported them to us. We are working on giving you a fair experience in the game and we value your efforts to rank higher on all the LBs.

    On our end, we keep checking for cheaters but if you spot one before we take them off, do let us know as soon as possible and we’ll take care of them.
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    Cheaters



    Originally Posted by Mozart08-TFG Go to original post
    The winner of week 2 on android was a Cheater.
    Its really bad.
    this last week i'm fight against gtdave for the first place.
    So One cheater came on your bike super fast and beat us for 2 seconds, or maybe for a half seconds.
    I think the redlynx need a way to check the speed of the bikes, if the max is 10, a bike running on 11 must be removed.
    The Android Platform has a lot of Cheaters and its no use Monthly foruns if the Cheaters keeps.
    The track "Torn Canyon" will be realeased 30 days from now and a lot of Cheaters Already played this track.
    Is too much to ask?
    Originally Posted by Bonxy Go to original post
    The cheaters are becoming a big issue in trying to keep the leaderboards clean.

    Its not like its hard to track them. Here is torn canyon leaderboard at the moment - http://trials.bonxy.net/tracks/Torn+Canyon


    We believe in Leaderboard integrity as much as all of you, and we banned cheaters once you reported them to us. We are working on giving you a fair experience in the game and we value your efforts to rank higher on all the LBs.

    On our end, we keep checking for cheaters but if you spot one before we take them off, do let us know as soon as possible and we’ll take care of them.
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    Retry Counts



    Originally Posted by NSP_I_VeNoMz Go to original post
    I think one improvement could be that if you finish the track but don't improve, if you had attempts left, allow users to keep using them, not take them away.
    As the 'restart track' button seems to be broken if you're closing in on the finish line this can be really annoying if you nearly beat your run on first attempt, and then cannot play it for 30 minutes.
    Previously, retry counts were applicable only to your current run, but we are working on a better skip-timer format for similar events, where you won’t see the skip timer before you exhaust all your retries in a challenge.
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    Retry Counts



    Originally Posted by NSP_I_VeNoMz Go to original post
    I think one improvement could be that if you finish the track but don't improve, if you had attempts left, allow users to keep using them, not take them away.
    As the 'restart track' button seems to be broken if you're closing in on the finish line this can be really annoying if you nearly beat your run on first attempt, and then cannot play it for 30 minutes.
    Previously, retry counts were applicable only to your current run, but we are working on a better skip-timer format for similar events, where you won’t see the skip timer before you exhaust all your retries in a challenge.
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    Missed Tracks


    Originally Posted by Danger-TFG Go to original post
    not bad event... i have been in top 1% through the event and i only got 3 tracks please release the tracks for purchase with gems cause this is not fair to players to miss tracks while they have been top 1%
    Originally Posted by Pdizzle337 Go to original post
    Not getting tracks wouldn't be a problem if they just released them right away in the store and not have to wait months and months to get them. Idk why they don't utilize the store. I never check it anymore because its always just crap and might as well use diamonds for other stuff.

    Also, anyone missed when the tracks used to be organized by green, yellow and red? I mean I know its easier to put them wherever but I liked the organization of the original tracks.
    Originally Posted by sveneriksson Go to original post

    Other than that I like the idea of everyone riding on the exact same bike on a brand new track. I don't know if I remember this correctly but is the chosen bike in the event even upgraded the same amount temporarily? If not I think that would make the event even nicer.

    Developers please make it possible to get the new tracks directly through some other challenge after the event.!

    Originally Posted by iwillnotwin257 Go to original post
    I'm a big fan of this event.
    Will we ever be able to unlock the midnight tracks for use with other bikes?
    Originally Posted by FatalDragon69 Go to original post
    @CaptainWeelie.....Can you tell us if we'll get to own the 4 new tracks that we've raced on each week of the event !?
    !! Thanks in Advance for ANY Help or Info !!
    Originally Posted by NSP_I_VeNoMz Go to original post
    Make all past event tracks available in shop for 90 gems each, I'd pay for all of them, so would a hell of a lot of people who are missing them.
    Originally Posted by iwillnotwin257 Go to original post
    Loved the event. Great setup in all ways. Just make sure that we can purchase the tracks we missed either with gems or chips sometime in the next 2 weeks or so. The quicker you can communicate to us about this, the quicker you can eliminate the complaining.

    I earned 3 of 4 tracks. Fun tracks. Challenging tracks. The ONLY downside is that I care about my leaderboard position. Easy fix. I'll pay what you ask.

    Thanks.
    For all of you wanting to own the tracks in Midnight Circuit reward trophies, we’ll be adding them to the Daily Shop soon!

    For those of you who missed getting any Midnight Circuit rewards due to a bug, please report this to the Customer Support team at “support.ubi.com” with all possible proofs, and you will get a solution for this as soon as possible.
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    Missed Tracks


    Originally Posted by Danger-TFG Go to original post
    not bad event... i have been in top 1% through the event and i only got 3 tracks please release the tracks for purchase with gems cause this is not fair to players to miss tracks while they have been top 1%
    Originally Posted by Pdizzle337 Go to original post
    Not getting tracks wouldn't be a problem if they just released them right away in the store and not have to wait months and months to get them. Idk why they don't utilize the store. I never check it anymore because its always just crap and might as well use diamonds for other stuff.

    Also, anyone missed when the tracks used to be organized by green, yellow and red? I mean I know its easier to put them wherever but I liked the organization of the original tracks.
    Originally Posted by sveneriksson Go to original post

    Other than that I like the idea of everyone riding on the exact same bike on a brand new track. I don't know if I remember this correctly but is the chosen bike in the event even upgraded the same amount temporarily? If not I think that would make the event even nicer.

    Developers please make it possible to get the new tracks directly through some other challenge after the event.!

    Originally Posted by iwillnotwin257 Go to original post
    I'm a big fan of this event.
    Will we ever be able to unlock the midnight tracks for use with other bikes?
    Originally Posted by FatalDragon69 Go to original post
    @CaptainWeelie.....Can you tell us if we'll get to own the 4 new tracks that we've raced on each week of the event !?
    !! Thanks in Advance for ANY Help or Info !!
    Originally Posted by NSP_I_VeNoMz Go to original post
    Make all past event tracks available in shop for 90 gems each, I'd pay for all of them, so would a hell of a lot of people who are missing them.
    Originally Posted by iwillnotwin257 Go to original post
    Loved the event. Great setup in all ways. Just make sure that we can purchase the tracks we missed either with gems or chips sometime in the next 2 weeks or so. The quicker you can communicate to us about this, the quicker you can eliminate the complaining.

    I earned 3 of 4 tracks. Fun tracks. Challenging tracks. The ONLY downside is that I care about my leaderboard position. Easy fix. I'll pay what you ask.

    Thanks.
    For all of you wanting to own the tracks in Midnight Circuit reward trophies, we’ll be adding them to the Daily Shop soon!

    For those of you who missed getting any Midnight Circuit rewards due to a bug, please report this to the Customer Support team at “support.ubi.com” with all possible proofs, and you will get a solution for this as soon as possible.
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    Originally Posted by FRgiftsenderTFG Go to original post
    I would like to take this discussion to make my apologies!
    Indeed, after numerous exchanges by mail with the service after sale of Ubisoft, about problems of some tracks not received or lost due to bugs,,,, "The day of glory has arrived" (if I can afford and as mentioned the French national anthem lol)...
    I therefore advise all people who have the same problems to be pugnacious and most patients because solutions exist

    Romain, the french after sales service, I beg you to accept my apologies for my support almost daily harassing , and responding so kindly and positively to my requests

    Romain, special mention

    Thanks all
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    Hi FRgiftsenderTFG

    Glad that your issue has been resolved. Thank you for the heads up, I will forward your good wishes to him.

    Originally Posted by AurisLT-TFG Go to original post
    1. keep midnight circuit forever. We just love this thing.
    2. add halloween 2015 track to shop finnaly please -.-
    3. more and more hackers getting unrealesed pasila bike so would be cool finnaly get event with that bike because everyone wants it...
    Hi AurisLT-TFG,

    Glad you liked the Midnight Circuit event. Halloween tracks will be added soon and cheaters will be taken care of as mentioned above
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    Originally Posted by FRgiftsenderTFG Go to original post
    I would like to take this discussion to make my apologies!
    Indeed, after numerous exchanges by mail with the service after sale of Ubisoft, about problems of some tracks not received or lost due to bugs,,,, "The day of glory has arrived" (if I can afford and as mentioned the French national anthem lol)...
    I therefore advise all people who have the same problems to be pugnacious and most patients because solutions exist

    Romain, the french after sales service, I beg you to accept my apologies for my support almost daily harassing , and responding so kindly and positively to my requests

    Romain, special mention

    Thanks all
    ��
    Hi FRgiftsenderTFG

    Glad that your issue has been resolved. Thank you for the heads up, I will forward your good wishes to him.

    Originally Posted by AurisLT-TFG Go to original post
    1. keep midnight circuit forever. We just love this thing.
    2. add halloween 2015 track to shop finnaly please -.-
    3. more and more hackers getting unrealesed pasila bike so would be cool finnaly get event with that bike because everyone wants it...
    Hi AurisLT-TFG,

    Glad you liked the Midnight Circuit event. Halloween tracks will be added soon and cheaters will be taken care of as mentioned above
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    Originally Posted by CaptainWeelie Go to original post
    For those who owned the paint jobs/outfits/bike blueprints in the reward list, the system would have searched for other rewards in the list. The same goes for all the players with the reward type depending on the players’ achievement in that particular week.
    that didn't work at all

    a LOOOOOOOOT of people got "unique prizes" they already owned (and it's happening also in the bunker season rewards!)
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    Originally Posted by CaptainWeelie Go to original post
    For all of you wanting to own the tracks in Midnight Circuit reward trophies, we’ll be adding them to the Daily Shop soon!
    Thats ridiculous, you should take a look at the weekly LB's and give tracks to people who deserved them, instead of milking them due to your faulty setup!
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    Originally Posted by pyNL Go to original post
    Thats ridiculous, you should take a look at the weekly LB's and give tracks to people who deserved them, instead of milking them due to your faulty setup!
    We all think of the event as a way to test skill, get in the top 1%, and get all the tracks our skill earned.

    That is not the way RL thinks, apparently. In their eyes, the event is just a way for us to get some prizes for "free" (assuming you didnt spend many gems for chances). They know it doesnt matter what particular rewards you get, because whatever you miss.... you can pay gems for in the rewards section at some point in time.

    Same end result (we get all the tracks eventually); but vastly different points of view. RL does not think their approach is "broken" in any way.

    Will be interesting to see the cost of tracks in gems when they do show up (120 gems we now know); you will probably will not want to greatly exceed that amount in gems in future midnite circuit run attempts. Kinda excessive to spend 500+ gems to get a CHANCE to earn a track that ANYONE can get for 120 gems later.....
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    This is good, we appreciate it a lot!

    I am still wondering whether the tracks from the event (that we played each week) are going to be released as well.
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