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[teksuo1]

auto-parry/counter

wait what?!

[SPECKLES_]

This hero should be highly nerfed. Infinite combos with unstoppable hits in a fighting/role videogame? Cmon... It shouldnt be like that, at all.

After saying that and before anyone tells me anything, Im pretty fine killing conquerors, but thanks to that I "got gud", not to that this hero is not SUPER OVERPOWERED, which clearly HE IS..

Have fun everyone.

any ideas on how he could be nerfed/balanced a bit while still maintaining the "feel?" you don't wanna nerf him into unplayability, and no single one of his skills is op, it's more just that when you add everything he can do up (auto-parry/counter, infinite chain, shield bash spam, essentially getting a feint even though not having one was supposed to be one of his weaknesses) it's a bit much. maybe if he changed guard stances a bit slower? idk

[SPECKLES_]

wait what?!

the conq's guard can interrupt heavy attacks as well as light, similar to an ever so slightly weaker parry, allowing you to follow up with a counter, usually a heavy unless your opponent's pretty on the ball. if you've charged your heavy it's devastating. plus after a heavy you can go right into a shield bash/heavy infinite combo. even if you just follow up with a light, that's an infinite chain and unless they predict which direction you're coming from (which usually won't happen til you've got in 4 or 5 good hits) they can't stop it. (again, you can also end the infinite chain with a heavy and transition into heavy/bash/heavy/bash).

i love this class it's my main, but overall it just feels a bit too hard for the opponent to deal with.

[corazondedelfin]

any ideas on how he could be nerfed/balanced a bit while still maintaining the "feel?" you don't wanna nerf him into unplayability, and no single one of his skills is op, it's more just that when you add everything he can do up (auto-parry/counter, infinite chain, shield bash spam, essentially getting a feint even though not having one was supposed to be one of his weaknesses) it's a bit much. maybe if he changed guard stances a bit slower? idk

Big changes, not small little changes. HE DOES A LOT OF THINGS, its like fighting against somekind of demoloshing tower. I need to put double efforts to kill it than to kill the rest and if they start doing the infinite ****... Then the game is ****ed up. That has to disappear, this character needs a big nerf to be equal to the rest, not super OVERPOWERED.

Either that or let my orochi jump above him and kill him by behind with a new ability "BackStorm" or somethng like that.

[lionardudu]

This hero should be highly nerfed. Infinite combos with unstoppable hits in a fighting/role videogame? Cmon... It shouldnt be like that, at all.

After saying that and before anyone tells me anything, Im pretty fine killing conquerors, but thanks to that I "got gud", not to that this hero is not SUPER OVERPOWERED, which clearly HE IS..

Have fun everyone.

Wow infinite combo with unstoppable hit ????!!!! Where???! i need it !!!

Cmon .... the infinite combo is a light attack sequence .... just a block stop it ...

And if you get stomp by shieldbash mixup .... u deserve a git gud XD

I agree that the shield bash/light if u hit is unconterable ... but no way better than the headbutt of a warlord or warden charge.

And conq have only this and the superior block ..... all other thing are parry bait.

[lionardudu]

Big changes, not small little changes. HE DOES A LOT OF THINGS, its like fighting against somekind of demoloshing tower. I need to put double efforts to kill it than to kill the rest and if they start doing the infinite ****... Then the game is ****ed up. That has to disappear, this character needs a big nerf to be equal to the rest, not super OVERPOWERED.

Either that or let my orochi jump above him and kill him by behind with a new ability "BackStorm" or somethng like that.

Orochi ...... ok ..... so .... u get killed in shield bash chain .... or by infinite combo ....??? infinite combo is a light attack spam ...shield bash mixup ..... you as orochi can just go away when you want with dodge attack/ dodge .

So yeah .... its a git gud situation...

[SPECKLES_]

Big changes, not small little changes. HE DOES A LOT OF THINGS, its like fighting against somekind of demoloshing tower. I need to put double efforts to kill it than to kill the rest and if they start doing the infinite ****... Then the game is ****ed up. That has to disappear, this character needs a big nerf to be equal to the rest, not super OVERPOWERED.

Either that or let my orochi jump above him and kill him by behind with a new ability "BackStorm" or somethng like that.

well in the mean time, as a conq here's how to deal with the infini chain and the bash/heavy:

when they start the chain, pick a guard direction and stick to it. if you try to match them you'll never keep up and get absolutely smashed. change your guard once to trick them into thinking you're trying to match them then go back, you'll usually stop the chain within 2 hits.

with the bash and heavy: dodge instead of trying to block/parry. a blocked heavy still gives the conq a bash, if you dash to the side they don't get it. if you're an assassin, kensei or valk that's a free hit to start your own combo too.

EDIT: sorry, if you dodge apparently they do still get the bash, you need to actually interrupt the heavy. tbh that feels waaaaay op, but yeah. instead of dodge i guess parry's your new best friend, or deflect/dodge/counter if you're an assassin kensei or valk.

[Burn-The-Sinner]

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