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So, right now i'm sure we all can agree the Roach is the number one cause of headaches. With that, nerfs for them have been shot out from every direction, from lower HP pool, less damage, a different way to trigger the parry/counter for them, ect ect. But with the Alpha, you all do realize that there are still 6 more hero's locked out? The Peacekeeper, The Lawbringer, the Shugoki, The Nobushi, The Warlords (hoping for a name change) and the Valkyries(also hoping for a name change). They may take nerfs into consideration, but I personally think they're going to wait a while. With the introduction of the other classes, we may find a new "omg OP plz nerf" in the Peackeeper or Nobushi or something. At the end of the day, it's an Alpha, not a final game. So whilst our feed back does mean a lot, i'm sure they don't care about the constant whining.
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1. Oh man, the traditional "get gud" comment, classic.Originally Posted by VenomStrikeDMZ Go to original post
2. I'm not really complaining about the Orochi, i'm making a statement saying "it's not the final game, calm yer tits"
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Yeah, I think people should worry more about connection issues and bark at Ubi to get some dedicated servers before we worry about nerfing everything. I agree that Orochi probably won't be the subject of everyone's tears once the other classes come out.
and personally, orochi to me is fine. Every class can seem strong in the right hands, but there may be one or two classes that are less tuned than others. Plus everyone has a stiffy for samurai and ninjas so you end up seeing tons of orochi based mostly on aesthetic.
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Exactly my point. I too started off as Orochi, simply because my inner anime otaku weeaboo was estatic. I found that I didn't like it that much, moved to kensie, it wasn't so bad, and found true love in the Warden... for now at least lolOriginally Posted by Cliffle Go to original post
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Some good points here. I had forgotten all about the other heroes. Super excited for them!
Also, I find that in duals I do much better against the orachi and I think that's because the connection is better and my computer has less to render. I feel like that makes him easier to beat.
There is a whole lot of content in the game that none of us have seen yet, so probably best to wait until we see more. There are going to be tons of glitches and problems on release. This is an Ubisoft game afterall. lol
And for the record, I have a much harder time dealing with Raiders what with their crazy run shove and unblockable third hit that I can't seem to dodge either.
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I don't understand what the big deal is about the orochi. Yes I played as orochi the whole alpha and prestiged him. But I have been defeated by every class with a good player who pays attention to battle patterns. If you can stun or guard break an orochi while making it unpredictable you have a great advantage against them. Its pretty simple. Every character has an unblockable attack and should be used in different combinations most people will use the same combo over and over again and that's not how you should play. Every move in a moveset is important for a certain situation or time frame you just have to know when. If you have shield bash use it but not in the same pattern. If you have stun use it just not in the same pattern. If you want to guard break use it just not in the same pattern. I will say that as an orochi my hardest battles were guard breakers, unblockable attacks, stunners, and shield bashers especially if someone knew how to use them at the right time in different patterns. It made it very hard to get anything started and drained my health very fast.
Also this is a brand new combat system for a game so of course there will be a learning curve. You will have to grind your characters and learn all their different patterns to become the most effective. And honestly, nobody did that in the time frame for this alpha their just wasn't enough time to learn characters profiles perfectly. Balance is the key for a game like this and it will be a very competitive game probably with GB's and all, but it will become boring if each character doesn't have its own OPness to them. With that said they also have flaws u can exploit for each of them so u just have to get used to the learning curve.
I have a couple alpha montages on Youtube that even show how each character exploited my flaws and punished me for them. Granted it is my montages and I did win the rounds but you can still see how different characters punished me for mistakes or misreads I attempted. I was playing decent people too so it wasn't all a bunch of button mashers check it out if you prefer:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yjE-hMhWZoo
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IdDe-34ImDw
Anyways I really hope this game doesn't get nerfed the devs really did an excellent job of balancing all the classes and giving them all strengths and weaknesses. I do like the suggestion about bigger maps for dominion that sounds great because it did feel a little clutered but also these aren't all the final maps it was only 3 basic alpha maps. And I love the maps for 1v1 and 2v2 they are perfectly sized and proportionate to the surroundings amazing job. In my opinion, this game is already 100 percent balanced I don't think the idea of nerfing something to get past a game's learning curve or nerfing to sell more copies so lesser players can have fun playing it is a good idea for something as strategic and tactical as For Honor.
