please stop with this whole pve dz talk. its pointless! | Forums

[DontGoRogueOnMe]

What's the point. The loot in the DZ is garbage and not even worth the effort of obtaining. Even DZ 6 is crap yellow pistols and dumb LMGs. If you are lucky enough to get a gear set item it's total garbage. The only thing to do in the DZ is PVP and that has been ruined by the m870.

What would a PVE only DZ even look like? Would you even need to extract? What the hell would be so dark about it? Would it not be exactly like the underground or any of the multiple incursions already out there?

It could look like any number of things. More mobs, tougher AI, AI hat cuts ropes and even steals our gear if it kills you. Missions within the DZ. Stealth missions that require completing objectives without being detected. There are myriad things a PvE DZ could be, that the current one is not.

Quite frankly, if the LZ had the things we wanted, that'd be fine too. 4 or 5x the map space in a more vibrant environment? I'll take that too...and then I could care less about a PvP DZ. We simply want more content to play against the AI where we're not pigeonholed into a sewer, trapped in a hole in the map, or stuck on top of a box of crates escaping RC cars.

[MIDJULIP]

It could look like any number of things. More mobs, tougher AI, AI hat cuts ropes and even steals our gear if it kills you. Missions within the DZ. Stealth missions that require completing objectives without being detected. There are myriad things a PvE DZ could be, that the current one is not.

Quite frankly, if the LZ had the things we wanted, that'd be fine too. 4 or 5x the map space in a more vibrant environment? I'll take that too...and then I could care less about a PvP DZ. We simply want more content to play against the AI where we're not pigeonholed into a sewer, trapped in a hole in the map, or stuck on top of a box of crates escaping RC cars.

LMAO wow that last line has me rolling.

[Bloodjen]

It could look like any number of things. More mobs, tougher AI, AI hat cuts ropes and even steals our gear if it kills you. Missions within the DZ. Stealth missions that require completing objectives without being detected. There are myriad things a PvE DZ could be, that the current one is not.

Quite frankly, if the LZ had the things we wanted, that'd be fine too. 4 or 5x the map space in a more vibrant environment? I'll take that too...and then I could care less about a PvP DZ. We simply want more content to play against the AI where we're not pigeonholed into a sewer, trapped in a hole in the map, or stuck on top of a box of crates escaping RC cars.

They should put mobs with bosses all over the LZ but make the difficulty of ALL of them based off of your current level or gear score and have the loot they drop in line with gear you are already wearing but just a little bit better...sometimes. The LZ at the moment is wasted space because end game people can wipe out most sections of the map with their pistol. The entire map should progress in difficulty along with the agents progression and the loot should always keep people looking for more of it because it just might be something that helps your build. Instead green and blue crap drop while you have a gear score of 252.

[reecher]

strange. if the dz didnt exist, this game would be you vs computers the whole time. the dz was built to have a pvp experience. if your willing to farm in the darkzone then your risking the stuff you farm to other players. its called the darkzone. i shouldnt have to go into detail about what the darkzone was made for lol. the name speaks for itself.

That is an oddly out of touch statement. You were provided a link to an official game stream where they face of the project stated the DZ is not dedicated PVP.

Furthermore, it is called the "Darkzone" because their is no communication in or out. The area has gone dark, as in blackout. It isn't called the Darkzone because its dreary or scary. Or are you making a reference to the fact ISAC cant communicate your activity out of the zone (hence Darkzone) therefore you can do what you want with no consequences or accountability?

To be clear, I am in support of a PvP Darkzone, and it's quite obvious the devs wanted it to be PvP. They DIDN'T want it to be dedicated PvP or a PvP arena, which it has devolved into. This is illustrated in the DZ pre-release trailers, and it has be reiterated by the project team.

However, by having the DZ turn into what it is, DOES illustrate the communities desire to have a PvP arena area for dedicated PvP. This should be something the devs address post hast. And who knows, perhaps "Last Stand" will be our dedicated PvP play we have been asking for.

With that being said, let me address your comment about how you believe those who want a PvE only DZ must not be able to defend themselves against PvP.

I was in the lower DZ bracket, somewhere between 15 and 17. I cant recall my exact level. I was trying to extract in DZ Zone 1. I was standing back observing the extraction and saw another player arrive. Wanting to avoid PvP, I simple departed the extraction point and abandoned the extraction process. The player that came to the extraction point was clearly looking for a fight. He saw me run off and pursued, taking a few pot shots at me as a left. He dropped my health significantly, but I had a heal up so I popped it. I made a bee-line for the nearest exit point. I couldn't enter because his shots had put me in combat. I turned around and emptied my SMG into his face, dropping him like a sack of potatoes. I just stood there over his corps for probably about 30 seconds just shacking my head thinking to my self, what a waist. I ran clear across the zone to avoid this confrontation and this douchbag followed me, just to die at my feet for no reason at all. I was dumbfounded at how eager this dude was to die. He could have thrown himself into a mob of NPCs and accomplished more with his time then he did pursing me across the zone.

My point is this. Yes, I can defend myself. Yes, I believe PvP is a huge waist of time. Yes, I would rather have a PvE only DZ then have a PvP DZ in the form it is in now. Yes, I do not like PvP. But more then that, it made me realize how badly this game needs a dedicated PvP system. This dude was SO desperate for some PvP action, he pursued me across the zone, someone who obviously didn't want ANYTHING to do with PvP, only to get wasted like a chump at my feet, AFTER I tried everything to avoid a confrontation.

[MIDJULIP]

That is an oddly out of touch statement. You were provided a link to an official game stream where they face of the project stated the DZ is not dedicated PVP.

Furthermore, it is called the "Darkzone" because their is no communication in or out. The area has gone dark, as in blackout. It isn't called the Darkzone because its dreary or scary. Or are you making a reference to the fact ISAC cant communicate your activity out of the zone (hence Darkzone) therefore you can do what you want with no consequences or accountability?

To be clear, I am in support of a PvP Darkzone, and it's quite obvious the devs wanted it to be PvP. They DIDN'T want it to be dedicated PvP or a PvP arena, which it has devolved into. This is illustrated in the DZ pre-release trailers, and it has be reiterated by the project team.

However, by having the DZ turn into what it is, DOES illustrate the communities desire to have a PvP arena area for dedicated PvP. This should be something the devs address post hast. And who knows, perhaps "Last Stand" will be our dedicated PvP play we have been asking for.

With that being said, let me address your comment about how you believe those who want a PvE only DZ must not be able to defend themselves against PvP.

I was in the lower DZ bracket, somewhere between 15 and 17. I cant recall my exact level. I was trying to extract in DZ Zone 1. I was standing back observing the extraction and saw another player arrive. Wanting to avoid PvP, I simple departed the extraction point and abandoned the extraction process. The player that came to the extraction point was clearly looking for a fight. He saw me run off and pursued, taking a few pot shots at me as a left. He dropped my health significantly, but I had a heal up so I popped it. I made a bee-line for the nearest exit point. I couldn't enter because his shots had put me in combat. I turned around and emptied my SMG into his face, dropping him like a sack of potatoes. I just stood there over his corps for probably about 30 seconds just shacking my head thinking to my self, what a waist. I ran clear across the zone to avoid this confrontation and this douchbag followed me, just to die at my feet for no reason at all. I was dumbfounded at how eager this dude was to die. He could have thrown himself into a mob of NPCs and accomplished more with his time then he did pursing me across the zone.

My point is this. Yes, I can defend myself. Yes, I believe PvP is a huge waist of time. Yes, I would rather have a PvE only DZ then have a PvP DZ in the form it is in now. Yes, I do not like PvP. But more then that, it made me realize how badly this game needs a dedicated PvP system. This dude was SO desperate for some PvP action, he pursued me across the zone, someone who obviously didn't want ANYTHING to do with PvP, only to get wasted like a chump at my feet, AFTER I tried everything to avoid a confrontation.

Thanks for sharing that, hehe did you say anything while standing over his corpse? taunt him? fart in his general direction? lolz just kidding I see your point.

[reecher]

thats funny, but no. in hindsight, i should have just let him crawl around on the ground, but i felt sorry for him so i ended his life out of mercy.

[dnrobs]

the dz was built for a pvp experience. if you wanna pve with out pvp problems you already have the underground and incursions. knowing that the dz is really meant for pvp, if you go in there farming you should be aware and prepare your build to farm and protect yourself at the same time. it just sounds like a pointless thing to make a pve dz.

We all said to massive at the start don't make a player killer,that idea was abandoned a long time ago.
Any pvp game today except division has the person who had just started on a level playing field,barring skill.
Do that from the start and not one person would have moaned about the pvp.
They didn't that's why it's dead,say nothing let them try all avenues,then moan.
The fact that one person can kill another 100% of the time purely on amount of time played is broken.
Make the dz pve and create a true pvp game,you will be happier I'm sure,

[Voronja_SaVi]

This is a thread about the players. This forum is about the game. Do not feed yet another troll.

[RLC_SCAVY67]

the dz was built for a pvp experience. if you wanna pve with out pvp problems you already have the underground and incursions. knowing that the dz is really meant for pvp, if you go in there farming you should be aware and prepare your build to farm and protect yourself at the same time. it just sounds like a pointless thing to make a pve dz.

roflmmfao !!

thew dz isnt even a true pvp/mp it is a pve/pk zone and so far only player that dont want an option to the dz are the one's that farm lowbies and dedicated pve'ers and those so call pvp dz'ers dont want a fair fight anyways. if they did they would only shot at other players looking for a pvp fight. but hell to the no they sure dont want a fair fight .. main reason why they will fight against the optuion for a pve/dz... but oh well there isnt really anything in the dz to get. so far im dz lvl 98 and havent gotten anything extracted out of the dz that was a upgrade for me !!

[Karamasov445]

Really at this point who really care about what the devs meant for the dz ? It's a fail so is time to evolve and improve. And yes the pve dz talk ( or any other form of pve alternative to the dz) is need because is kind of clear pouch people to the dz is a total fail.

The dz is a fail because it turn out to be a brainless tdm that please only ganker and pk ( totally different people than pvp player) as long they have easy prey ( pve player) to farm.

So as i said, as long is no alternative for pve player, and a true pvp for pvp player, every "fix" on the dz the devs can imagine will fail. They just need to look at the actual state of the game for understand that.