please stop with this whole pve dz talk. its pointless! | Forums

[Zathras23]

I'll stop asking for a PVE DZ when the game stops sending me there to complete daily and weekly missions. Till then just deal with it.

[Moon-Pye]

Have two Dark Zones. One as it is now and a "mirror" for people that want it how it is now, but with no ******* rogues. This will please both parties. If people are against this, then that means you are just going to have a much harder time griefing lower players and players who just want to mind their own business and you should stop playing immediately and start playing CoD, because that's where you most likely belong, with all the other immature children.

My friends and I have a blast in the Dark Zone, but when rogues start acting like D-bags and gank us right when we come out of the door, and start griefing us....nope we drop group and get on another server, and if that new server has the same amount of douchbaggery. We either do something else entirely or call it a day.

If "true" PVP'ers want to keep doing what they're doing, then having a "mirrored' DZ will not affect them in any way. It only seems like the whiny, cheap, overly competitive D-bags are the ones whining about this "mirrored" DZ and for obvious reasons, (which are terrible).

I think what infuriates people the most is, busting their *** for gear only to have some ****head grief them and take it away at the last second, effectively having wasted their time. And more often than not, the rogues don't even need the gear they just hijacked, they are just doing it to get a rise out of the victims, which pisses people (me) off to no end.

[MerlinMMXX]

Christ on a bike. I am one of the most vehement voices when it comes to this subject, ive gone on about wanting a pve DZ toggle for months, why.... because I believe we should have some to farm in peace without the fear of asshat thieves taking our spoils.

1.4 gives us this with everything they talked about in the SOTG this week. We are going to be literally drowning in 229 gear.

We won, we got what we wanted, the only people who should now be sad are the gankers as the tables just got well and truly turned. Now they are going to have to face the true pvp contingent and ironically become the proverbial rabbit in the headlights themselves.

Karma is a wonderful thing isnt it?

[vvhorus]

Yea, your conclusion about me is ignorant.

I bought this game because it has a system in which I liked. If the game didn't have a pvp system, I would not of bought it. I like the idea of the dark zone being the best and fastest place to get rewards (perhaps not now, but it was and it should be). I like that risk vs reward system. It's what makes the division unique. It's not just some lame pvp system where deaths don't really matter. I like the idea that you feel a sting when you die.

If you add a PVE dark zone that offers the same rewards as the pvp dark zone, they mine as well delete the pvp dark zone. Nobody is going to go into it and farm npcs there with that risk while they can just go farm in a PVE dark zone no problem.

The dark zone needs to stay the dark zone... a pvpve experience. The dark zone should be best and fastest place to obtain the best gear. The dark zone does need adjustment. PVP must be balanced. Gear shouldn't matter as much as it does now. Once adjustments are made and pvp is balanced, the dark zone will feel better.

The dark zone should be the ultimate challenge in the game and it should reward those accordingly based off that risk/reward. Incursions should be next in line, then HVT's, then World PVE.

If they make it so world PVE is just as good as the dark zone to obtain gear, then I think the game is done. I mean seriously, what drives PVE players in this game? It's not like you get that shiny new piece of armor that looks really cool. I mean, this is a shooter where we all look the same. The goal in this game is to get better gear to kill other players. But hey, some people just can't handle the challenge. Its too much for them.

This game just needs balance. The dark zone needs some adjustment, but the concept needs to stay the same. Stop trying to take away that small pvp zone that is completely optional to enter. You can obtain gear everywhere else in the game, but the fact is, you want loot more easily and that's fine, they are going to make it easier to obtain loot by balancing the npcs, adding world pve, and being more generous with loot, but leave the darkzone out of it!

First of all, I did not conclude anything. I don't know you.

Second, could you explain to me why the concept of CHOICE is so hard to understand? Seriously!

All that rant of yours about how the DZ should be is all well and good FOR YOU. If that's the way you want to play the game, that's perfectly fine with me. You can play in the DZ your way all you want. I would like the CHOICE to play in the DZ MY WAY. Why are you, or anybody else, so concerned about how I want to play the game? Isn't it better to have more choices, especially when those choices have no effect in other players' game experience? I've said this many times before: not everyone likes to play the same way. Massive should (and needs to) cater to as many players as possible if they want to attract and keep their player base.

The DZ can be many things to different players. To only limit it to one thing is absurd and will only hurt the game in the long run, in my opinion.

I bought the game for the story and how it allowed me to play co-op with my friends. It's a totally different reason than yours. Is it less valid? Absolutely not. Is it more valid? Absolutely not. It's just different. We all have different preferences. Many of us would like to see Massive cater to our preferences as well...

[aldramelech]

I've got a free roam LZ so you can keep your DZ now

Just keep the DZ requirements out of missions and I'm all set.

[Chobo_Princesss]

First of all, I did not conclude anything. I don't know you.

Second, could you explain to me why the concept of CHOICE is so hard to understand? Seriously!

All that rant of yours about how the DZ should be is all well and good FOR YOU. If that's the way you want to play the game, that's perfectly fine with me. You can play in the DZ your way all you want. I would like the CHOICE to play in the DZ MY WAY. Why are you, or anybody else, so concerned about how I want to play the game? Isn't it better to have more choices, especially when those choices have no effect in other players' game experience? I've said this many times before: not everyone likes to play the same way. Massive should (and needs to) cater to as many players as possible if they want to attract and keep their player base.

The DZ can be many things to different players. To only limit it to one thing is absurd and will only hurt the game in the long run, in my opinion.

I bought the game for the story and how it allowed me to play co-op with my friends. It's a totally different reason than yours. Is it less valid? Absolutely not. Is it more valid? Absolutely not. It's just different. We all have different preferences. Many of us would like to see Massive cater to our preferences as well...

I'm not telling anyone how to play the game. Nobody is forcing you and any other player into the dark zone! I'm DEFENDING the dark zone. You guys are trying to CHANGE IT to make it the way you want it.

You guys are more than welcome to PVE and co-op with your best friends all you like. The game caters to that with HVT missions, Incursions, Challenge Missions. But that's not enough for you guys, you want it easy and you want a easier pve dark zone.

I'm just repeating what massive has said what the dark zone is. They said it has the best loot.. It's a pvp area!

Maybe you should watch this trailer again by Ubisoft about the dark zone!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cAUIRzgEkX8

I mean, you mine as well call ubisoft everything that you called me. This is what they advertised the dark zone to be!

Lastly, you guys need to stop judging me. You have no idea how i play. Your just stereotyping me because I like pvp.

Again, I think the dark zone needs adjustment, but the concept needs to stay the same. That concept is PVPVE, the best loot in the game, fear, betrayal, ect...

[RLC_SCAVY67]

I'm not telling anyone how to play the game. Nobody is forcing you and any other player into the dark zone! I'm DEFENDING the dark zone. You guys are trying to CHANGE IT to make it the way you want it.

You guys are more than welcome to PVE and co-op with your best friends all you like. The game caters to that with HVT missions, Incursions, Challenge Missions. But that's not enough for you guys, you want it easy and you want a easier pve dark zone.

I'm just repeating what massive has said what the dark zone is. They said it has the best loot.. It's a pvp area!

Maybe you should watch this trailer again by Ubisoft about the dark zone!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cAUIRzgEkX8

I mean, you mine as well call ubisoft everything that you called me. This is what they advertised the dark zone to be!

Lastly, you guys need to stop judging me. You have no idea how i play. Your just stereotyping me because I like pvp.

Again, I think the dark zone needs adjustment, but the concept needs to stay the same. That concept is PVPVE, the best loot in the game, fear, betrayal, ect...

guess you need to rewatch it your self, since by the vid it shows it only happen once and the said rouge didnt go and camp the check pint/safe house either. but all so maybe you had the sound off by chance? cause it did say that the rouge became dis-envowed by the division? if this happens so why doesnt all of the division gear/electronic ya know just tunr off? cause if they are not agents then your part of the scum!! which dont get to use division tech.. maybe if ubisoft/massive would have thought the rouge systerm through. this should have not happened..

but anyways a pve/dz would be good since the dz sure in the heel not a pvp zone !! cause if it was a pure pvp zone there wouldnt be any loot/npc and such inside there ! so please stop saying dz is a pvp zone..

[aldramelech]

I'm not telling anyone how to play the game. Nobody is forcing you and any other player into the dark zone! I'm DEFENDING the dark zone. You guys are trying to CHANGE IT to make it the way you want it.

You guys are more than welcome to PVE and co-op with your best friends all you like. The game caters to that with HVT missions, Incursions, Challenge Missions. But that's not enough for you guys, you want it easy and you want a easier pve dark zone.

I'm just repeating what massive has said what the dark zone is. They said it has the best loot.. It's a pvp area!

Maybe you should watch this trailer again by Ubisoft about the dark zone!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cAUIRzgEkX8

I mean, you mine as well call ubisoft everything that you called me. This is what they advertised the dark zone to be!

Lastly, you guys need to stop judging me. You have no idea how i play. Your just stereotyping me because I like pvp.

Again, I think the dark zone needs adjustment, but the concept needs to stay the same. That concept is PVPVE, the best loot in the game, fear, betrayal, ect...

I suggest you go and watch the SOTG previous to the last one where Yannick states the DZ IS NOT a PVP area.

But as I said, who cares about the DZ now we have a free roam LZ? You can keep it. And boy what a toxic little toilet it will be, enjoy.

[OillyRag]

the dz was built for a pvp experience. if you wanna pve with out pvp problems you already have the underground and incursions. knowing that the dz is really meant for pvp, if you go in there farming you should be aware and prepare your build to farm and protect yourself at the same time. it just sounds like a pointless thing to make a pve dz.

Just thought I'd throw my two cents into this argument.
Now we are seeing some flesh on the bones of 1.4 this whole argument is moot IMO.
The whole LZ will be a PVE DZ what with the new respawning bosses and if they refresh the chests as some in the community are calling for, this whole argument will be settled.

[Chobo_Princesss]

I suggest you go and watch the SOTG previous to the last one where Yannick states the DZ IS NOT a PVP area.

But as I said, who cares about the DZ now we have a free roam LZ? You can keep it. And boy what a toxic little toilet it will be, enjoy.

Lol really? Then what is it then? I'll tell you, it's a pvpve zone.

"The Dark Zone is a walled-off quarantine zone in the middle of Manhattan, with the goal to stop the contagion of the once as flu suspected virus. Linked seamlessly with the rest of the game it is the place for PvP-fights and at the same time contains the most powerful and rarest loot in The Division." source - https://division.zone/zones/dark-zone/