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    Halting new content til bugs are fixed is probably the right way to do it

    So I burnt through 1.3 in a matter of weeks. The combination of different life events meant I had plenty of time to game in July and I was almost as decked as you can be by the 20th of July or so in all the gear sets I wanted (and a few extra to boot). Sure I didn't have the perfect build and would've liked to get some more upgrades, but such is life and the RNG didn't favour me in my DZ forays.

    Took a moderate break and started gaming again last week, leveled a new toon, got her to do some UG in a different build, been having fun again. I yearn for new content, hopefully more fleshed out content (WOW raid-style in terms of instances with multiple bosses of increasing difficulty would be ace in my book), and that's not changed, even though I'm having more fun in the UG than before.

    However, this last week of gaming has highlighted to me the still prevalent bug state in this game. Mike and Delta errors are abound, skills freeze rather frequently (in a 4 horsemen farrm it's going to happen at least once every three runs on at least a player), the new bug (at least for me) of having your emotes flash up and not being able to do anything about it, not being able to see your group in the UG, skill delay ... There's quite a bit of stuff here that needs to be fixed.

    I LIKE the game, otherwise I wouldn't boot it up rather frequently, but these things need to be fixed. The game is only 5 months old, but it's been in development for years before that, so these things should've been fixed ages ago IMO.

    So yeah, I really want new content, but I also think fixing most of these is something that should've been done by 1.1 at the latest and here's hoping we'll get a fix for these sooner rather than later. October is 5 weeks away, so not inmensely far away, or 9 weeks away if you deploy in the last weekend of October which is when, I suspect, they expect to release this 1.4 patch.

    These are not game breaking for me, not even combined, but they cut the enjoyment and, at times, my gaming session short too.

    I do, however, hope, they take this rather lengthy delay of Survival (From Summer to almost Winter by the looks of it) to add extra content to Survival. Yeah, we get it that these fixes take time, however, the people working on the fixes are not the whole Massive team, so throw us a bone here and use this time to get more content out of the gate. The DZ needs to get enlarged, for instance. Massive has stated they ain't going to enlarge it in the short-term, but that's bonkers if you ask me. It's still the most talked about area of the game (played 28% of gaming time so probably the most played in the game too), and if you're going to do something about it, get DZ 7-10 out too, for instance.
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    the right way to have done it would have been not to have wasted about the last two and a half (going on three now) months and fixed a good chunk of problems. or at the very least fix some of them or hell even at the very very least fixed the terrible lag
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    Originally Posted by mvpblaze Go to original post
    the right way to have done it would have been not to have wasted about the last two and a half (going on three now) months and fixed a good chunk of problems. or at the very least fix some of them or hell even at the very very least fixed the terrible lag
    This is a very much a dwell on the past kinda community. It must be horrible living in a world where the past forever dictates the future.

    What would have been nice, would have been if they hadn't had to concern themselves with meeting their obligation to release the UG in a timely manner. Had they not had to meet a deadline, perhaps bug fixes could have been a bigger priority. Pushing the release of additional content back to focus on bug fixes is a good thing. Too bad everyone who's still left on the forums is already playing 9 other games the moment the bug fixes come out. I still wonder how people are going to juggle time between talking here about a game they don't play anymore, and the 8 new titles they'll be playing in October. Wizards.
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    With regard to this:-

    Originally Posted by LepantoESP Go to original post
    I do, however, hope, they take this rather lengthy delay of Survival (From Summer to almost Winter by the looks of it) to add extra content to Survival.
    I watched an original video of the year one content.

    https://youtu.be/c_qUtFkdPEk

    I wonder if Survival, rather than having content added is undergoing a rework. The whole Rogue idea has obviously divided the community since the beginning, so it would probably be a bad move, if as the video suggests, ('or will you like so many others succumb to the temptation to turn rogue'), it's a key feature of the Survival DLC, rather than an option.
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    They shouldn't release ANY NEW content until ALL the known issues are resolved. If that takes 6-12 months, or longer, so be it. The game is unplayable for me, between the huge amount of bugs/issues and the boredom. I'll wait to see what 1.4 brings, and I'll come on at the beginning and middle of the month to see what the drops bring, but otherwise I'm playing other games.

    The DZ in its current state is a mess and can't be called PvP at all. I seriously don't think there's a way to balance it in its current state. Why they couldn't leave it alone pre 1.3 I'll never know. It was fine then as far as the AI goes. Now I can't venture past DZ01, and even have trouble with the 33's there. There was NO F'ing need to add level 34 and 35 AI to the DZ. They should develop a completely new PvP area, if they really need PvP at all. Take the agent vs agent crap out of the current DZ and go back to 1.3.

    They also need to address once and for all the deal where I have to delete the entire game and download/install it again for each patch and DLC that comes out. You know how many times my external HDD and internal Xbox drive has had this game unloaded/loaded onto them???? Ubisoft tech support says its my internet but my internet connection has been verified by Comcast, so Ubisoft tech support can shove it.

    The other 9 issues I've submitted a trouble ticket on Ubisoft tech support says, "we have no record of this problem and have no fix for it at this time". Sometimes they come back and say its my internet connection. They have no clue.

    I really don't know how Ubisoft thinks they can address all the issues in the short time they've given themselves. Bugs/issues aside, if they follow through with what we've all been screaming about for the last 2 months, and that's to get the game back to the way it played when we were doing the story missions 1-30. If they can do that with 1.4 I'll be happy. Enough with the bullet sponge AI. It's simply ridiculous now and the reason I'm not playing until something is done about it.

    A couple days ago I logged on after a month or so break and decided to do some HVT's. The 2nd HVT selected disappeared from my map, another known issue. I had to log off and back on again to get it to show up. When the boss was almost dead he too disappeared from the game, no loot, but I did get credit for it, another known issue.

    The time before that my buddy and I were doing UG. The 3rd or 4th mission we played the "get booted to the dashboard" game. We both have hardwired connections so its not our internet. After an hour of meeting up with each other for like the 6th time, we gave up. It simply wasn't worth it.

    I say forgot ANY NEW content. Put Survival on the back burner until ALL the bugs/issues are addressed. If they don't, this WILL fail and they just as soon shut ALL the servers down and move on.
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    Originally Posted by Hugo-FOU Go to original post
    With regard to this:-



    I watched an original video of the year one content.

    https://youtu.be/c_qUtFkdPEk

    I wonder if Survival, rather than having content added is undergoing a rework. The whole Rogue idea has obviously divided the community since the beginning, so it would probably be a bad move, if as the video suggests, ('or will you like so many others succumb to the temptation to turn rogue'), it's a key feature of the Survival DLC, rather than an option.
    The video is pretty funny, with the core game being so incredible messed up, nothing will work as its supposed to as a result. The DZ is broke beyond repair unless they dev a separate PvP area that call actually be called PvP. If Survival takes place in what we call the DZ now, it'll fail. So sad.
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    With only 1 percent having completed the UG and half struggling at level 17 UG and below. Active players obviously have something to do till then

    I play Heroic but only one out of ten teams is passing it . Luckily a bad team will go down right away so I'm not wasting that much time.
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    Originally Posted by Force58 Go to original post
    The video is pretty funny, with the core game being so incredible messed up, nothing will work as its supposed to as a result. The DZ is broke beyond repair unless they dev a separate PvP area that call actually be called PvP. If Survival takes place in what we call the DZ now, it'll fail. So sad.
    Things are messed up, but they obviously are serious about fixing things and seem genuinely to want to design (or rather redesign) the game around player feedback. I think that's admirable.
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    Originally Posted by IKILLAUNOW03 Go to original post
    With only 1 percent having completed the UG and half struggling at level 17 UG and below. Active players obviously have something to do till then.
    Is there any urgent benefit from getting to lvl 40 in UG other than the caches? I keep hearing about the necessity of completing UG before Survival, have not heard why.
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    Originally Posted by Whiskey.Zulu Go to original post
    Is there any urgent benefit from getting to lvl 40 in UG other than the caches? I keep hearing about the necessity of completing UG before Survival, have not heard why.
    I haven't heard anything. Actually, I'm looking to hold off until 1.4 drops in the hope that there is a loot rework. Why waste all those caches?
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