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  1. #11
    Do you three live in a parallel universe to the rest of us or something??

    There were 4k viewers for this "game saving" announcement, yet you think this game isn't dead?
    People complain here because this is the last stop for people to voice their opinions.... IF you dont like their opinions then why get involved in their threads? When they disagree with you its "trolling" but when you disagree with them its fine? I expect it from Snowshoes as he's clearly not all there but i thought he was a special case, consider myself proved wrong.

    I like the fact people think these fixes will save the game... beyond that you've got sub standard content and no way of expanding it.
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  2. #12
    I will play the game again there is no doubt. I most likely wont play again until 1.4 is applied but they should expect this from many of us. its not a death stroke its simply recovery time.
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  3. #13
    I'm sure player activity will continue to wither over the next couple months but I believe this is the right choice. The overly aggressive DLC schedule was probably a big factor in why bug fixes and balance updates were slow in coming. The dev team was just too busy trying to keep the new content coming. There are a few new games and expansions coming out over the next few months so I'll put some time into other games and come back in October when 1.4 drops to see if they've been able to improve the game.
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  4. #14
    Originally Posted by UNSCxSniper Go to original post
    1.4 not until October?
    Survival not until an even later date?

    I know bugs need fixing and all but that's way way way too far out. It's not the players fault you can't fix bugs in a timely fashion and let them pile up

    The dark zones 01-06 are stale. I endured them believing there'd be an update/dlc coming soon but knowing it will be months is just too long
    Underground is done for me
    Missions albeit fun to run can't hold players over for months

    Having defended the game for this long I think it's safe to say I can't do it any longer. If I can't do it any longer I can't see too many others doing either. The population will truly be decimated by then. Even the most casual players will run out of content

    I think this just put the nail in the coffin
    Super disappointed in massive and Ubisoft right now.

    Actually just the opposite.

    This game right now is broken. You can PLAY it...but as a loot-based, action-RPG the game simply doesn't work.

    Massive has finally admitted this, and stopped trying to put band-aids on what are fundamental game-design issues.

    Sometimes a dev just has to admit that what seemed like a good idea on paper, doesn't work in the real world with real gamers.

    Blizzard had to do that with vanilla Diablo 3. Its loot system didn't work...and its Real Money Auction House an unmitigated disaster.

    It took Blizzard having to burn the ENTIRE ECONOMY of D3 to the ground, and rebuild it from scratch to save that game.

    ...and its going to take even MORE than that to reinvigorate this game.

    But---for once----Massive seems willing to finally acknowledge the scale of the problem...and pull together a reasonable time table for addressing the myriad number of accumulated bugs, and to redesign (they finally used that word) the parts of the game that are simply not working.

    To the contrary. I fINALLY am starting to have hope for this game.

    People have already left this game.. But if Massive fixes whats broken, the core gameplay is good enough---and the potential for the game great enough----that they stand a good chance of winning people back to the game.

    But this game's end-game needs to be stripped to the wall studs and re-built before that can happen.
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    Originally Posted by kellygreen45 Go to original post
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    People have already left this game.. But if Massive fixes whats broken, the core gameplay is good enough---and the potential for the game great enough----that they stand a good chance of winning people back to the game.

    But this game's end-game needs to be stripped to the wall studs and re-built before that can happen.
    This my point, fix all you can but if the content and end game stay as it is I see no reason to come back personally... feels bad.
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  6. #16
    Originally Posted by Three Snowshoes Go to original post
    I agree with this. I've never seen so many people devote so much time to hating a game, without leaving it. lol

    This is pretty much every thread on this board. People hate the game, but refuse to leave/move on. I think they're masochists and addicted to misery.
    Criticism isn't hate.

    ...and even genuine hate isn't the opposite of love. That's apathy. Those people deleted the game, sold it back to Game Stop and couldn't care less what happens to this game from now on.

    The angry people are the ones who still care. The angry people are the ones who want break through Massive's denial (pun unintentional) of this game's obvious problems...and rescue it from the pile of games that "could have been".

    As long as people are showing up here and contributing to the discussion on how to FIX this game. They are doing both Massive...and this game....a TREMENDOUS favor.

    To their credit, at least Massive seems to have sense enough to realize this.
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    Originally Posted by Kaijudub Go to original post
    Do you three live in a parallel universe to the rest of us or something??

    There were 4k viewers for this "game saving" announcement, yet you think this game isn't dead?
    People complain here because this is the last stop for people to voice their opinions.... IF you dont like their opinions then why get involved in their threads? When they disagree with you its "trolling" but when you disagree with them its fine? I expect it from Snowshoes as he's clearly not all there but i thought he was a special case, consider myself proved wrong.

    I like the fact people think these fixes will save the game... beyond that you've got sub standard content and no way of expanding it.
    Of course you're probably right! Let's just all give up! Like the old saying, 'If at first you don't succeed, give up!'

    And you think people should only comment on threads/posts they agree with. Not sure you're familiar with the concepts of discussion and debate.
    I've agreed and disagreed with the op depending on the subject or individual comment. Trolling is usually more along the lines of insulting someone or criticising someone for having a different opinion. (No offence)

    I don't know if the fixes will save the game. I don't even know if they will enhance my enjoyment of playing. But I hope they will. The game can't be saved if no one tries!
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    Originally Posted by Three Snowshoes Go to original post
    This thread looks familiar. Like 90% of the rest of the threads on the front page. No offense, OP, but why do we all need our own threads to discuss the exact same thing?
    Irony. All you do is complain. I make one compliant thread and you have a problem with it. Just don't read it then
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  9. #19
    Originally Posted by PappaCube Go to original post
    I will play the game again there is no doubt. I most likely wont play again until 1.4 is applied but they should expect this from many of us. its not a death stroke its simply recovery time.
    Because this game needs MAJOR surgery.

    Well put.
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    Originally Posted by Three Snowshoes Go to original post
    I agree with this. I've never seen so many people devote so much time to hating a game, without leaving it. lol

    This is pretty much every thread on this board. People hate the game, but refuse to leave/move on. I think they're masochists and addicted to misery.
    Lmfao you are cracking me the hell up.

    Three snowshoes..... You are the most consistent hater of the game. You've been here since the beginning hating the game and now you have the audacity to tell people who are upset with the game to leave.

    Such a joke
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