A YouTube video that explains why the DZ is meh. | Forums

[MurderrTrain]

I'm kind of sick of hearing how 2 piece final measure is ruining skill builds in the dz. Like, have you ever heard of pulse or Smart Cover? With a skill build they will dramatically increase your damage out out and EDR does nothing to prevent it.

So if you think final measure is killing skill builds its because you're not good enough to switch off your insta-kill skill and actually aim.

[Scorpiodisc]

I agree about the need for separate PvE and PvP dark zones. The only problem is, that will effectively kill the PvP DZ. No one will ever go into the PvP version, except the little sociopaths that live in there already.

None of it matters anyway. Once they finish delivering the season pass content, they will be shutting down the servers anyway. There is not going to be a Division year 2.

[Minfulpizza]

This kid is complaining about the game taking "no skill" and watching his gunplay..... He is terrible. He misses about 90% of his bullets on targets....

This game takes a significant amount of skill. Having great rolls on guns helps. Having super high headshot damage helps. But if you can't aim your gun, know when to move out and heal, or be just a smart PvP player... You will get rolled over.

Rogues aren't the problem with the Division. People who have been playing COD for the past decade where shooting a few shots in the gut and having people die is why so many left. The division takes tactics and smarts to win long engagements. Sadly people can't hang with that. Everyone wants this giant PvE experience when that's not what this game is... This is a PvP game with a PvE experience.

I'm not sorry when I kill you in the DZ and take your gear. You just aren't that good at shooters and your character is weak. Welcome to thunderdome. Play smarter, get friends, and rise up the ranks like I and everyone who is at the top has done.

Rogues aren't killing the division. People who have rage quit issues and can't handle not being spoon fed by developers the best gear in the game Are the problem. I had to grind and fight off rogues just like you all did to get to my gear score and gear rolls.

Stop crying. You aren't going to be handed the top gear; you have to earn it like the rest of us did.

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[Minfulpizza]

So OP dude here is how ninja loot the supply drops in the dark zone so , can no longer complain, solo if buy your self . have fun,

toughness forget if was 400k or 600k . but can do this every supply drop, just do not do around more then 2 real players other wise your dead.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yhammx7XHRU

[nuclearbroccoli]

This kid is complaining about the game taking "no skill" and watching his gunplay..... He is terrible. He misses about 90% of his bullets on targets....

This game takes a significant amount of skill. Having great rolls on guns helps. Having super high headshot damage helps. But if you can't aim your gun, know when to move out and heal, or be just a smart PvP player... You will get rolled over.

Rogues aren't the problem with the Division. People who have been playing COD for the past decade where shooting a few shots in the gut and having people die is why so many left. The division takes tactics and smarts to win long engagements. Sadly people can't hang with that. Everyone wants this giant PvE experience when that's not what this game is... This is a PvP game with a PvE experience.

I'm not sorry when I kill you in the DZ and take your gear. You just aren't that good at shooters and your character is weak. Welcome to thunderdome. Play smarter, get friends, and rise up the ranks like I and everyone who is at the top has done.

Rogues aren't killing the division. People who have rage quit issues and can't handle not being spoon fed by developers the best gear in the game Are the problem. I had to grind and fight off rogues just like you all did to get to my gear score and gear rolls.

Stop crying. You aren't going to be handed the top gear; you have to earn it like the rest of us did.

It was substantially easier in the past to earn that gear because:

A. More players were still grinding for decent gear rather than going rogue. That cut down on the risk. I remember multiple trips through the DZ not that long ago when I wouldn't see a single rogue for hours. Now it's multiple groups all the time.

B. Fewer players had complete builds. That made the fight a bit easier.

For anyone who started late, and is trying to catch up now, the DZ is a lot tougher than it was the first month the game was out.

So saying that everyone had to earn that gear like you did is not a fair comparison as the environment has changed substantially.

[Easy_Duhz_It_]

Do I care what you prophecy? Do you intend to scare me? Discourage me? Ill be playing Tom Clancys Ghost Recon Wildlands come December

Are you getting an advanced copy because the game is coming out March/April of 2017.

Either way, Mafia 3 will keep me busy until then.

[sabernub]

Do I care what you prophecy? Do you intend to scare me? Discourage me? Ill be playing Tom Clancys Ghost Recon Wildlands come December

You do know it will be very buggy also, right? Anybody looking forwards to another Ubisof game, I have a a bridge in New York I want to talk to you about buying.

ROTFLMAO

[Krovven]

I've had the game since launch, but my kid was born a week later and I just didn't have time to play. In the last 2 weeks I've been playing, quickly geared up to gs215 on 2 characters while doing S&D missions, HVT's and Incursions. I've gone into the DZ a few times in order to level up to 30 so I can get access to the other blueprints. Problem is, you've got lvl 99 jerks in 4 man groups killing solo players in DZ01-02 even when I don't even have any loot. They are just doing it because they are griefers, they get off on being griefers and they get zero penalty for doing so because nobody in the DZ01-02 can defeat them.

So for casual players and people like me just getting back into the game...it's not fun. I've only been able to get a couple decent items extracted from the DZ in many hours of play. So the designers need to ask themselves...why would anyone that may have an hour or two a day (or every few days) to play, want to choose The Division to spend their time on, particularly in the DZ?

I've got a few friends that also bought the game and gave up on it very quickly and have not gone back and I can't convince them to come back even just for the Coop content. #1 response, the DZ is horrible, unfun and that's where the best gear is.

It's a simple solution. Have a PvE DZ server and a PvP DZ server. Let those of us that want to play in peace, grouping or solo to do the PvE content and those that want to go Rogue and fight other players they can do so as well.

If they don't want to go that route, then make it so a-hole lvl 99 players can't grief and farm noobs in DZ01-02. ie: you can't go Rogue in DZ01-02 if you are over lvl 30, DZ03-04 over lvl 40, and so on.

Continuing to allow end game players to grief and farm noobs in the low level DZ zones is never going to keep people playing the game and when they get bored of playing the same Story Missions and Incursions over and over, they will move on.

[Haarkruemmer]

It's a simple solution. Have a PvE DZ server and a PvP DZ server. Let those of us that want to play in peace, grouping or solo to do the PvE content and those that want to go Rogue and fight other players they can do so as well.

This is not going to happen because that's what all PvE players actually want. If players could join a PVE only dark zone then there would be no one left to grief and kill for the PvP *******s. The devs knew this from day one. That's why they don't give you the choice. Go figure.

[LepantoESP]

A YouTube video? Why am I forming my own opinion when someone I don't know about has formulated his in a video with random gameplay? Thanks for sharing, now I needn't think about one more thing. Soon I can be a jellyfish and simply drift along instead of living as I want. THANK YOU.