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    NEWSFLASH! DZ is NOT PvP

    It is PvP "sometime" or PvP "maybe". There is no guarantee that you will go PvP as it is optional. It can happen out of nowhere! BANG! shot in the back by the same person you just helped. It is not an all or nothing approach. It is a very stupid premise that many have noticed sucks the very life out of the game. Sad part is the developers do not get it. I remember watching the State of the Game and them saying "Those bugs? We didn't fix them." One guy laughed at all the bugs in the game. The other said "Yeah, but now you can cut the rope!"

    With all of the bugs that was his high point. You can cut the rope. These morons deserve to go under and expelled from the game developing world. The game is sold to individuals and is nearly impossible to play solo. "Group recommended." Total BS!

    Match-make, do FL CM and get kicked from group before you collect. Hey but you can cut the rope! There is a guy that makes Youtube videos where he kicks people after completing CM incursions. Solution? Ubisoft deleted his character. Work around? They guy had another character up and did the same thing within 24 hours.

    The best BP are in the DZ. The Phoenix Credits are total rubbish. The same worthless crap is in the high end vendor store. The Weekly Assignments require you to enter the DZ. I mean seriously! Whiskey Tango Foxtrot!? Oh right! I forgot, you can cut the rope!

    The DZ is totally a cluster fudge. No PvP only entrance. No group only entrance. Griefers and troll paradise.

    So... wait for 1.3? Yeah then wait for 1.4, 1.5 and then the BIG 2.0 that will save the world! I imagine how awesome this game would be if Ubisoft/Massive just handed it over to just about any other game developer.
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    PvP was decent through the alpha, closed beta, beta and the first month or so of the game. They have definitely ruined it though.
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    Just let it go.

    The Dark Zone has changed into a P v P TDM style arena (the DEVS now say that's how it was intended) so let it lie let those who want their TDM P v P have it.

    the underground DLC with it's endless random missions and dungeons will keep P v E players like me busy so there will no need to go into the DZ ever again the underground will give better gear and weapons,

    (THINGS CHANGE) ST happens

    Or you could just

    STAY FROSTY
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    yessir, there is a guy (i'm sure there are a bunch of these types of streamers) on PS4 that streams routinely, and what he does is joins a group (random matchmake) walks out the door into the DZ with his team mates, leaves the group right after and shoots them in the back.....(while these guys are looking at their maps etc).
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    Originally Posted by SS4GogetaTX Go to original post
    It is PvP "sometime" or PvP "maybe". There is no guarantee that you will go PvP as it is optional. It can happen out of nowhere! BANG! shot in the back by the same person you just helped. It is not an all or nothing approach. It is a very stupid premise that many have noticed sucks the very life out of the game. Sad part is the developers do not get it. I remember watching the State of the Game and them saying "Those bugs? We didn't fix them." One guy laughed at all the bugs in the game. The other said "Yeah, but now you can cut the rope!"

    With all of the bugs that was his high point. You can cut the rope. These morons deserve to go under and expelled from the game developing world. The game is sold to individuals and is nearly impossible to play solo. "Group recommended." Total BS!

    Match-make, do FL CM and get kicked from group before you collect. Hey but you can cut the rope! There is a guy that makes Youtube videos where he kicks people after completing CM incursions. Solution? Ubisoft deleted his character. Work around? They guy had another character up and did the same thing within 24 hours.

    The best BP are in the DZ. The Phoenix Credits are total rubbish. The same worthless crap is in the high end vendor store. The Weekly Assignments require you to enter the DZ. I mean seriously! Whiskey Tango Foxtrot!? Oh right! I forgot, you can cut the rope!

    The DZ is totally a cluster fudge. No PvP only entrance. No group only entrance. Griefers and troll paradise.

    So... wait for 1.3? Yeah then wait for 1.4, 1.5 and then the BIG 2.0 that will save the world! I imagine how awesome this game would be if Ubisoft/Massive just handed it over to just about any other game developer.
    The hope is that things like HVT's/HRT's continue to evolve, and that the new Underground is indeed the PvE arena most of us have been waiting for. If it is, those of us that want to acquire gear for the sole purpose of becoming more proficient in the PvE portions of the game, can do so without having to unwillingly engage groups of individuals that are far more talented at the game than we are, far better geared than we are, and typically running around in groups of 4 while we run solo or in tandems. Most of us are fine with the challenges involved with playing the highest difficult levels of AI. Perfectly content. I'm sure the PvP crowd finds that hard to believe, and likely boring, but it's what we enjoy. I'm 38 years old. I come from a generation where gaming was largely you versus the game. You wanted to beat the game. I grew up with that approach to games, and I still have it. I don't want to beat YOU, or have you impede my progress and ability to attempt to beat the game. I'd prefer you not to be any part of my gaming experience unless you're there to help me with my objective.

    I already enjoy the game with the gear that I have, no doubt. If I never got any new gear, I'm certain I will continue to enjoy the new PvE content. And actually, I'm quite fine with not being able to get the same gear in the Underground you may get in the DZ. As it stands, there's stuff you can only get in the various incurious...but I find those to be boring as hell, so I'm fine with not getting the gear associated with those venues either.

    Would I love a PvE only DZ? Or the ability to flip a switch so that I can't be engaged int he DZ? Certainly. But it's not likely to happen. So...I'll leave the DZ and play the PvE content available. If enough people do that, the griefers and gankers (so called PvP players) will have the DZ to themselves...and they can just go around beating one another over the head with a hammer. Hopefully they won't be too inconvenienced by the AI...you know...the PvE content.
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    Yes it is PVP when people decide its PVP time. which is out of your control. SO news flash you better prepare for PVP ALL THE TIME. and accept it.
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    In the current climate if you run by some players, especially a group, it is quite likely you will be engaged in battle. Everyone these days wants to test out their pvp strength in the DZ. I'm not complaining. Win some, lose some.
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    Originally Posted by Three Snowshoes Go to original post

    Would I love a PvE only DZ? Or the ability to flip a switch so that I can't be engaged int he DZ? Certainly. But it's not likely to happen. So...I'll leave the DZ and play the PvE content available. If enough people do that, the griefers and gankers (so called PvP players) will have the DZ to themselves...and they can just go around beating one another over the head with a hammer. Hopefully they won't be too inconvenienced by the AI...you know...the PvE content.
    I like PvP when it's reasonably balanced and not a gank-fest. A lot of players prefer co-op and PvE and find the pseudo PvP experience in DZ only frustrating. So why not just stay out of DZ? Well, if you do you will not get access to the best gear and mods in the game and you won't be able to finish weeklies. DZ needs a change, either let players "turn off" PvP status (same as many other MMOs offers) or just offer the same gear through PvE.
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    Originally Posted by zknight4 Go to original post
    In the current climate if you run by some players, especially a group, it is quite likely you will be engaged in battle. Everyone these days wants to test out their pvp strength in the DZ. I'm not complaining. Win some, lose some.
    thats not even remotely true. And even if it was thats fine. You are warned it is a PVP area. The people crying about not getting to PVE in a PVEVP area are whining children who want their cake and your cookie and that other guys milkshake.

    They were warned and they ignore the warning and get epicly salty when the PVP actually happens. They rage and make assumptions on why they were attacked/killed
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    Originally Posted by Toza.M Go to original post
    So why not just stay out of DZ? .
    This is what blows my mind. I dont like mobas .. so i dont buy league of legends or DOTA 2 or any other moba to play through the storyline and then whine and cry on their forums about changing how the games PVP is .

    I dont buy Doom to play the storyline and then go on the doom forums to complain about the PVP

    I dont buy CSGO and go on the forums and cry for a storyline.

    If you dont like PVP, stop playing a game that has PVP. Go play hello kitty island adventure or hop on an RP WoW server and go cyber with that troll in the dark alley.
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