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    Is everyone running a tank... and a couple questions

    It seems every rogue out there is running a tank now. I'll unload my AUG in their face (220k DPS with a 50 round mag) and they just laugh at me. Over and over it goes. But the thing I don't get is how they also drop me so fast (330k toughness with 75% armor mit). How? How do they maintain extremely high toughness AND damage? I can build up to 400k toughness, but my DPS drops to about 100k. I thought for that touhgness you had to compromise damage dealt. What am I missing? What is enabling these guys to take no damage and deal so much themselves? I want to build THAT! As is, PVP just seems unbalanced the other way now... or not, since they're now just indestructible 3-shotters instead of low DPS annihilators.

    Oh, even better is when they laugh at you after wiping the floor with you. I love PVP but the childish behavior leaves much to be desired. Yup, I will keep coming back again and again and again on my alt. You'll just have no money to steal and I could care less about XP. As long as we keep their timers up they are not getting XP either and eventually (hopefully) enough people band together and smack 'em. But I won't laugh at them ;-)
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    dnrobs's Avatar Senior Member
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    220,330 you will get to 400k changing one firearm piece to stamina.youre dps should still be sbout 190.
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    230/420/20

    I have 2693 in firearms, 3394 in stamina, 1630 in electronics with stamina mods with skill power. I don't even have a 228 gs yet still farming for those perfect knee pads for my build. My friends and I are of the opinion you should have minimum of 4 gear mod slots I currently have 6. It's all about those mods. Oh and I'm still running 3/3 striker and sentry.
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    Im having the same problem. 260k damage, 330k or so toughness...75% mig. Had so many rogue fights tonight. Went 1v1 with a handful of people. We would fight up close and i would use my vector or Lvac and unload a whole clip in there head and basically take no damage and they would fire at me for 2 seconds or so and im dead. I mean i would be moving around while they would just stand in the same place so there really is no skill involved lining up the sights. I know i was hitting them because my 4 piece strikers perk was build and would be half way full. There shield would not be up but basically take no damage. I dont understand this.

    Anyone know why or how people can be that tanky without shield up and drop you like a fly. Also most of the people i fought didnt have an over heal going.
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    killzone2fanboy's Avatar Banned
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    Feel exactly the same as u op, I feel useless in pvp now no matter what I do to my build!
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    Originally Posted by mccallew Go to original post
    It seems every rogue out there is running a tank now. I'll unload my AUG in their face (220k DPS with a 50 round mag) and they just laugh at me. Over and over it goes. But the thing I don't get is how they also drop me so fast (330k toughness with 75% armor mit). How? How do they maintain extremely high toughness AND damage? I can build up to 400k toughness, but my DPS drops to about 100k. I thought for that touhgness you had to compromise damage dealt. What am I missing? What is enabling these guys to take no damage and deal so much themselves? I want to build THAT! As is, PVP just seems unbalanced the other way now... or not, since they're now just indestructible 3-shotters instead of low DPS annihilators.

    Oh, even better is when they laugh at you after wiping the floor with you. I love PVP but the childish behavior leaves much to be desired. Yup, I will keep coming back again and again and again on my alt. You'll just have no money to steal and I could care less about XP. As long as we keep their timers up they are not getting XP either and eventually (hopefully) enough people band together and smack 'em. But I won't laugh at them ;-)
    were they using smart cover ? this is a thing,smart cover + tank build, makes them very hard to kill,most rogue groups, now have a smart cover
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    I have wondered and googled, what IS the max stat of each of the three? You have the xxx,xxx number which I'm not looking for. I'm looking for the smaller number in the thousands. Does anyone know what that is?
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    The reason why they can take you down so fast is, they either using 4 tactican to get a high skill power and when they pulse you with that skill power, your basically dead. Also plenty are using the smart cover with that 4 piece tactician build. Or they had someone in their team with a dps build and the tank guys just got your attention from him away. There're also a few who are tanky and have a high dps at the same time, I saw people with 200k+/400k+ builds. I'd recommand using the pulse that protects you from other pulses. Also always stick together, when you're fighting against a group of rogues. When you use Incendiary bullets on the tanks, they won't be able to do anything for a few seconds. Also you can emp stun them with granades or the sticky bomb, so they won't be able to use any of their skills for a few seconds.
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    When going after rogues try unloading a clip into each one. If ones squishy, he's the tech build. They are totally useless without him. I took him out, then got 2v1'd and my mate took the remaining 3 out on his own. They still came back for more but once they had lost their tech they had to 2v1 me again at the extraction to get me down. 1v1 doesn't suffice even with flashbangsticky and the lame *** ducks were using shock turrets. Who still uses shock turrets. You're lvl 99 for gods sake. What you got to lose other than being able to brag about being 99 from going on manhunt and rogue. Be a man and fight properly. I sure do and I'm a woman no dirty tack ticks from me it's a clean fight, gun v's gun.
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    Even I 600k t. some rogues take me out so fast beside Survival Link. Single person against 4 of us still not dying.

    Answer? CheatEngine cheaters they are. They are just rising their life in a way in those game edit programs so they go dps items in legit way and just editing their life for being not to die. Cheaters always find a way for themself to avoid of ban detection >.<' I hate them!

    Still best way stop cheating that separete PvP/PvE on/off DZ! Drops same but a lot group can play together wiyh PvP off!

    Edit: btw, also those rogues not using smart cover etc. If someone coming here and tell that those rogues use smart cover don't believe them. They are just trying to cover their dirty things!
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