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    Why would anyone use an Assault Rifle?

    I have tried so many and they all suck compared to the SMG's. There is no critical hit chance, handling sucks, even with 800 pus on predators gear, dps still is lower, what gives?
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    I ask myself that every day. Even the new assault rifle set is more useful with an SMG.
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    Originally Posted by IsaWhite Go to original post
    I have tried so many and they all suck compared to the SMG's. There is no critical hit chance, handling sucks, even with 800 pus on predators gear, dps still is lower, what gives?
    Try better ones. They pair decently with a good SMG.

    Predators is just borderline terrible in general. +800 damage is horrible.
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    I find it fun to use sometimes. Its not always just about the figures.
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    Effective range?
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    Originally Posted by ejnt Go to original post
    Try better ones. They pair decently with a good SMG.

    Predators is just borderline terrible in general. +800 damage is horrible.
    Yah the lone star 1K seems to be way low for guns that do like 50K (shotguns) and the way low damg LMG's.

    As for the OP i have a tech build that uses a liberator with 1K RPM that can out shoot any SMG. WIth pulse at maxed out I crit just as much as any SMG and than melt them. Though I do love the guys that run SMG's cause they keep my TECH piece bonus at 100% and I stay back and snipe most the time since I'm kinda a soft target in most fights.

    My main char uses an AR also as his main gun. Though he has a MP5 for closer range fights when needed and ammo gets low. The AR has better range and when your dealing with farther away targets you don't get the drop off in damage like SMG can.

    I just wish I can find some more of them than just the M416, AK and ACR in higher rank HE prints. I know a ton of folks that would love the LVOC as a 204 gun or I would love a light M4. The liberator doesn't have talents that are good for my main char to use it.
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    Lightweight M4 + Super 90 (with right talents) combo is beast against NPC and players.
    You just need the right gear.

    That is in consoles where aiming accurately is harder than with PC and you do not land HS all the time.
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    Originally Posted by EvilPr0digy Go to original post
    Effective range?
    Nope...

    The ranges where the AR will start performing better per shot when compared to the SMG is also the range where it will start to perform worse then the SMG because of it's recoil and control issues. Not to mention that the innate critical hit chance that SMG's carry directly counteracts the damage decay from engaging targets outside their optimal range.

    The only reason to pick up an AR is because they sound more beefy and satisfying - which makes it feel like you are performing better...
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    Originally Posted by sirtexassir Go to original post
    Yah the lone star 1K seems to be way low for guns that do like 50K (shotguns) and the way low damg LMG's.

    As for the OP i have a tech build that uses a liberator with 1K RPM that can out shoot any SMG. WIth pulse at maxed out I crit just as much as any SMG and than melt them. Though I do love the guys that run SMG's cause they keep my TECH piece bonus at 100% and I stay back and snipe most the time since I'm kinda a soft target in most fights.

    My main char uses an AR also as his main gun. Though he has a MP5 for closer range fights when needed and ammo gets low. The AR has better range and when your dealing with farther away targets you don't get the drop off in damage like SMG can.

    I just wish I can find some more of them than just the M416, AK and ACR in higher rank HE prints. I know a ton of folks that would love the LVOC as a 204 gun or I would love a light M4. The liberator doesn't have talents that are good for my main char to use it.
    If you're going to pair it with a SMG you're probably better off with one of the high bullet damage ones like the BM AK, Mk 16, SCAR, etc. The SCAR L seems to have the same damage range as the Mk 16 but a higher base acc. I've got a couple that are around 10k bullet damage unmodded at 2900 Firearms.
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    i got a lightweight m4 and i love it
    i use a skill hasle build 3 tactician and want 3 predator for my m4 because the talent on it
    Prepared
    Effect: Damage is increased by X% when more than 40 meters from the target.
    Capable
    Effect: Using a Skill improves the handling of your weapon for x seconds.
    Brutal
    Effect: Headshot damage is increased by X% when using this weapon.

    now when i use pulse i can kill the snipers whit my m4 because its nearly not have recoil capable is awesome and whit a steady hands all bullet hit in long range

    i use smg too but now its a secondery weapon.that got bigger dmg output but only in close range.
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