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    Originally Posted by HeaverBeaver115 Go to original post

    If you are really unlucky, the 4th prize might show the maximum number of tries that you can get to, which is 150, I think. And you have to be REALLY unlucky.

    Using 5/20/70/100, statistically speaking your 100th spin will have a 1 in 100 chance of winning the blue prize, exactly the same chance as your very first spin, 1 in 100. In order to see a clear 5//20/70/100 pattern you´d probably have to spin thousands of times. Where does this distribution come from? Is this official?
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    Originally Posted by ChemicalD Go to original post
    Using 5/20/70/100, statistically speaking your 100th spin will have a 1 in 100 chance of winning the blue prize, exactly the same chance as your very first spin, 1 in 100. In order to see a clear 5//20/70/100 pattern you´d probably have to spin thousands of times. Where does this distribution come from? Is this official?
    Exactly, if it's the 1st spin or the last spin, it's 1 in 100 or a 1% chance, but you would be really unlucky if you do hit x100 on that last blue prize, even though it's still a 1% chance, but it is still very unlucky, but not a lot of us would actually try and go and hit x100 in one day, most of us would normally use the slots 5 or 10 times in a 24-hour period, so that's only a 5% or a 10% chance of hitting the top prize, which isn't the worst odds in the world. Even if you hit x50, that's a 50% chance of obtaining the prize if you would get the top prize when it's between x1 and x50, and then it's another 50% if you would get the prize between x51 and x100.

    I think on the slot machine you would be able to figure out how many different selections are on the 1st and 2nd prize, there isn't that many anyway on the 1st and 2nd prizes, there are 5 and 20, but not on the 3rd and 4th, so it might take a few hundred or thousand tries to find out, but I don't know if the actual 5/20/70/100 is official but it does sound like it though. I think I have read it on a previous thread but I'm not too sure though. But I would say that the 5/20/70/100 pattern is official, since it looks accurate enough.
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    statistically speaking your 100th spin will have a 1 in 100 chance of winning the blue prize, exactly the same chance as your very first spin, 1 in 100
    Not quite, since they keep adding blue prizes to the wheel each time; if you are unlucky enough to make it to the 100th spin (and assume that there are 100 positions), every item should be should be a blue prize for that last spin, making it 100% chance of success.

    Its been a while since I messed with this, but this was a topic about it a while back:
    http://forums.ubi.com/showthread.php...=1#post9953565
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    Originally Posted by xitooner Go to original post
    Not quite, since they keep adding blue prizes to the wheel each time; if you are unlucky enough to make it to the 100th spin (and assume that there are 100 positions), every item should be should be a blue prize for that last spin, making it 100% chance of success.
    Technically, that is true, and on the other thread, mathematically that is correct, but I don't think the slot machine works that way.

    I think it's set each time that you would get whatever prize at whatever the multiplier is each day, if you do reach that amount of spins, or neither of us would ever get to x50 or to x80 in which some of us hit, or even to x100 on the slot machine if it did do it that way.

    For example, in the other thread where you calculated it, at x1 = .99 = 1% chance. And then at x2: .99 x.98 = .9702 = Around a 3% chance. And at x3: .99 x .98 x.97= 0.9411 = Close to a 6% chance, correct? So by using that method to calculate the chances of obtaining it at x50: .99 x .98... all the way to x.51 x.50 = 0.00000015343, which is a 99.999984657% chance of getting the prize. And yes to that degree of accuracy. Apologies to those who doesn't like the vastly high level of mathematical accuracy.

    Now that was the same method you worked it out with, so either the maths is wrong somewhere or that isn't the way the slot machine is worked. (And yes I did go there, all the way to x.50, just to work it out and see if it was right.) So if it was at x50, the odds of not hitting a prize then is 1 in 6.5 million, which is pretty much near impossible odds, so none of us would have had a pic of seeing that it was x50 if it was that way. Sorry to be THAT mathematical.
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    If you guys want to confirm it you can actually count the spots yourself. You can spin the little wheels after you complete a mission but before you pull the lever to spin them. Use your finger to move the wheels. That's how it was discovered in the first place by my buddy a long time ago.
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    So if it was at x50, the odds of not hitting a prize then is 1 in 6.5 million, which is pretty much near impossible odds, so none of us would have had a pic of seeing that it was x50 if it was that way. Sorry to be THAT mathematical.
    But we dont have a picture at x50... we have an OP picture at x30 (around a 0.5% chance of occurring, right?) and some pictures of a bugged slot machine at x80. We only got to x80 because it wasnt operating normally (actually, we were getting the prize every time) Like you say, if it was operating normally...the chances of us getting to where we did just should never have happened.
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    Originally Posted by HeaverBeaver115 Go to original post
    Technically, that is true, and on the other thread, mathematically that is correct, but I don't think the slot machine works that way.

    I think it's set each time that you would get whatever prize at whatever the multiplier is each day, if you do reach that amount of spins, or neither of us would ever get to x50 or to x80 in which some of us hit, or even to x100 on the slot machine if it did do it that way.

    For example, in the other thread where you calculated it, at x1 = .99 = 1% chance. And then at x2: .99 x.98 = .9702 = Around a 3% chance. And at x3: .99 x .98 x.97= 0.9411 = Close to a 6% chance, correct? So by using that method to calculate the chances of obtaining it at x50: .99 x .98... all the way to x.51 x.50 = 0.00000015343, which is a 99.999984657% chance of getting the prize. And yes to that degree of accuracy. Apologies to those who doesn't like the vastly high level of mathematical accuracy.

    Now that was the same method you worked it out with, so either the maths is wrong somewhere or that isn't the way the slot machine is worked. (And yes I did go there, all the way to x.50, just to work it out and see if it was right.) So if it was at x50, the odds of not hitting a prize then is 1 in 6.5 million, which is pretty much near impossible odds, so none of us would have had a pic of seeing that it was x50 if it was that way. Sorry to be THAT mathematical.

    I think you may be over complicating it. If there is 100 slots on the final wheel and 1 big prize to start, your odds are 1 in a 100 to win. Every time you fail to win the big prize, another big prize slot is added.

    For your 2nd spin, your odds are 2 in 100 (or simplified, 1 in 50). For the 3rd spin it would be 3 in 100, for the 4th spin 4 in 100. Some of these would simplify neatly in whole numbers, 4 in 100 odds in a casino would be expressed as 1 in 25 where as 3 in 100 would end up with fractional numbers.

    If there is 100 slots on the wheel and the slot machine adds another big prize to the wheel for each additional spin, if you did get to your 100th attempt without actually winning the prize, theoretically all 100 spots on the wheel would have the big prize as the reward and it would be impossible to miss. Your odds would be 100 out of 100 or a simple 1:1.
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    @Justinman, holy crap! i didn´t know you could move those! Cool.

    @Xitooner, i completely forgot about the multiplier, your post from 2014 explained it well, thanks. How does Butch factor in? What are the odds of getting Butch on all 4 slots?
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    @Justinman, holy crap! i didn´t know you could move those! Cool.
    @Xitooner, i completely forgot about the multiplier, your post from 2014 explained it well, thanks. How does Butch factor in? What are the odds of getting Butch on all 4 slots?
    Hehe;] sometimes, when I badly want a prize, I scroll wheels to wanted prize before spinning (better find 2-3 in a row :d ) - imagine tensioning springs :d for magic, JIC :P

    4 Butches - Jackpot!
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    @ Justinman: OK fair enough, I totally forgot you could do that. I actually counted all of the spots as well. I got 5/25/70/100. The 2nd has 25, that's what I counted. You can even scroll them before the actual challenge comes up, so you could look at what bikes and types of maps, and different scenarios of what you could get in terms of tricks, airtime or back-flips, etc... It would have the KTM bike and the Stallion and Agent show, but we will never use them in the slot machine. But again you probably knew all of that too.

    @ xitooner: If I went to x80, there would literally be so many 9's, it will be 99.9999... and I would carry on, so it would just literally be amazingly close to 100%, and I didn't want to put that many 9's on here.


    Originally Posted by hanks420 Go to original post
    I think you may be over complicating it. If there is 100 slots on the final wheel and 1 big prize to start, your odds are 1 in a 100 to win. Every time you fail to win the big prize, another big prize slot is added.

    For your 2nd spin, your odds are 2 in 100 (or simplified, 1 in 50). For the 3rd spin it would be 3 in 100, for the 4th spin 4 in 100. Some of these would simplify neatly in whole numbers, 4 in 100 odds in a casino would be expressed as 1 in 25 where as 3 in 100 would end up with fractional numbers.

    If there is 100 slots on the wheel and the slot machine adds another big prize to the wheel for each additional spin, if you did get to your 100th attempt without actually winning the prize, theoretically all 100 spots on the wheel would have the big prize as the reward and it would be impossible to miss. Your odds would be 100 out of 100 or a simple 1:1.
    I am aware of all that. The 1st spin is 1 in 100, yes, and the 2nd spin is 1 in 50, and so on, but it would be the odds of having obtained that prize within that number, as in a 2.98% chance of getting that prize within the 1st 2 spins, and a 5.9% chance of getting the prize of getting it within the 1st 3 spins, and so on. Meaning the 1st 50 spins it would have an accumulated calculated chance of 99.999984657%, means that you will get the prize within the 1st 50 spins.

    But then again I don't think that is how the slot machine works, because if we can hit x80 that easily, then it doesn't sound like it is down to mathematical odds, I think the slot machine is programmed to give you the prize at whatever the number is, so it could be x77, or it could be x23, or x1, x99, or even x100, so it's actually in-fact what I said before, that the numbers between 1 and 100 could equally have a 1 in 100 shot. But you wouldn't know how many goes you would need.

    @ ChemicalD: I'm not sure but I think it's around about 1 in 10 on each section, but sometimes that depends on what prizes you have won or not won, I don't know the logic behind it, but you do see a Butch appear after a spin on a section, so it depends. But since I've hit 4 Butches once, I'm going to say that it could be a 1 in 10000 chance of getting 4 Butches overall, that's my guess. Sometimes you don't see it in the 1st section of prizes... But you do see a lot of Butches in the 2nd, 3rd and 4th section of prizes sometimes, so each section could be on average 1 in 10, but depends on the amount of Butches there are on each section, so there could be 5 Butches in the 2nd section of prizes out of 25, making that 1 in 5, but again, I don't know how it works. Could be between 1 in 1000 and 1 in 10000, but again, I really don't know, so many factors involved.

    Hit 4 Butches for a massive Jackpot of... Absolutely nothing.
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