Stick Bomb Only ruin our PvP DZ | Forums

[Fazemlidaiya]

I saw lots of god intel I suppose and lots of crap from some people in this thread. I didn't check yet how much I have, but Im pretty sure I have some. The thing was I saw a team of 4 rogues, using this skill set and killing the entire session of players, not just me. the bombs were ready like in 10sec after the first blow, was impossible to counter attack. If the entire session was playing without EDR was too lucky to be true for this squad. Because in an RPG game you cannot have such a talent wth this kind of power, always on, ready to do another hit. It ruins the experience do to farming for weapons and gear, since, you just need to have the talent.

and to end with my question above, how much you guys think the percentage of EDR is sufficient?

Pretty much called Teamwork there. But there ARE ways to counter it. If a single team of 4 Rogues is killing an entire server - ESPECIALLY with this tactic, then the server is a bunch of idiots not even trying to fight back.

Me ... a Marksman ... I''' do one of two things. I will assume a position at around 100 Meters and snipe you. You will NOT be throwing a sticky bomb 100 yards. Won't ever happen. So I will comfortably off the Rogues and then listen to their whining that I am probably some "hacker" that is cheating to death, because ... let's face it ... PvP players, right? Now, let's say the Rogues are using this technique in an alley - say that one where you can climb up and fortify, which is a smart move. Then I do my other choice ... leave them the hell alone. No one is forcing me to engage them.

Really, this whining business is on the same level as the people crying that they are somehow "forced" into the DZ because they WANT (note, want and not need) a piece of gear from in there. Okay, so now the player has CHOSEN to go into the DZ to muck around ... bringing you to the choice presented here ... these Rogues appear to be using GREAT teamwork and doing an awesome job of holding off a few other players. Should I risk losing XP and cash to join in a fight that is clearly not to my advantage?

And of course I saw the silly argument of "They sticky so fast!". No ... you can ALWAYS see a Sticky coming a mile away. You can tell by watching players near you if someone is about to sticky. They present very specific behavior and positioning and you CAN see it coming. Every time I get even an inkling that I am about to be bombed, I get the hell out, and so far this thing I am doing ... called "Paying attention", by the way ... well, it's worked GREAT so far. I have never died to another player's sticky. I die occasionally to a Rogue because I was NOT paying attention, but even you are almost in a comatose state you can see a sticky being set up or even thought of by a player.

So, no, Sticky does NOT need to be nerfed. People need to just start paying attention.

Oh ... and even a team of 4 Rogues using their talents to have back to back Stickies ... I see those groups killed every night in the DZ, so it's not impossible. Gods forbid it actually be harder to take down a set of players that are actually using teamwork and tools to their advantage instead of just running around firing rifles like idiots. You guys have the same skills, also .. uh ... maybe sticky them back? OH! There's a thought!

[Three Snowshoes]

Suck it up pvp guys, everything is fine as it is for all that needs to be done in pve.....the problem I have always had with pvp is the whiney buff this, nerf that crap to "balance".....I want my sticky bomb to one shot, blow the crap out of a 34 NPC.....leave it the hell alone.

People want their Sentry gear to remain OP with their SMG's.

We don't all get what we want.

Watched one sticky bomb take out an entire 4 man group while extracting today. Guys with 90k health, full armor mitigation... It was a joke.


Also...the guy saying you can see a sticky coming a mile away. You must be able to see it from the backside too while you're on the rope extracting...or when someone comes up behind you while you're engaging NPC's. Man...the real trick is to grow eyes in the back of your head.

[Gulmarrad]

I love my sticky bomb , it one hits anyone as long as they don't have survivor link active.

For the record, armor mitigation doesn't affect sticky bomb damage.

The time they are most overpowered is when you come across a group of people extracting, boom, instant quad kill

[pryomage1]

sticky bombs take no skill I have 80k hp and 65percent mitigation and I still got 1 shot by these kids with no gun skill but they can use a sticky bomb it takes very little aim skill involved and recharges every 15 seconds. whoever is for them I can say you have no gun skill at all and that is the only reason you u like the sticky bomb. they need to be nerfed somehow in pvp. it is like cancer and slowly killing people with skill will to be good at games and just choose the cheap route

[Fazemlidaiya]

sticky bombs take no skill I have 80k hp and 65percent mitigation and I still got 1 shot by these kids with no gun skill but they can use a sticky bomb it takes very little aim skill involved and recharges every 15 seconds. whoever is for them I can say you have no gun skill at all and that is the only reason you u like the sticky bomb. they need to be nerfed somehow in pvp. it is like cancer and slowly killing people with skill will to be good at games and just choose the cheap route

Actually - I never use the things. Just saying there's no issue with their power is all. The same about this "aim" bit you say can be said for your ability to dodge a VERY obvious incoming bit of damage.

[Ultrique]

Having played with and without sticky I can see both sides of the issue, however I am inclined to agree with the general statement of Pay Attention and get better as a player.

To get a SB high enough to kill you and get the cool down to under 20 seconds I give up DPS or health, tend to have to give up other stats to get bonus SB dmg, so if my SB misses I will pretty quickly get f****d up or just not be able to kill your team mates. To avoid it is simple don't fight in enclosed areas (notice how SB guys run alleys and rooms), don't run about on top of your team mates, engage at range if you know someone's running it, stack some exotic dmg res. Its actually harder to guarantee a kill with SB against groups than it is to avoid it if you pay attention to what your doing, I tend to go rouge more by accident with SB and mines in the DZ than by intentional shooting players so it works both ways.

Its a very hard counter to the SMG high dps relying on survivor link and basic healing setup I see every day, is it OP nope as it can easily be countered and avoided. Its not cancerous or an issue just because someone wants to play a different style to you, you need to adjust your style to anticipate this type of play. I find killing a player with SMG with no ability to react 90% of the time far more of an issue than insta sticky kill 50% of the time.

That said does it scare the crap out of other players when I drop a mine and they have seen me 1 shot most NPC with a sticky... yes but its a bloody good deterrent against ganking me if your low on health.

[Ultrique]

sticky bombs take no skill I have 80k hp and 65percent mitigation and I still got 1 shot by these kids with no gun skill but they can use a sticky bomb it takes very little aim skill involved and recharges every 15 seconds. whoever is for them I can say you have no gun skill at all and that is the only reason you u like the sticky bomb. they need to be nerfed somehow in pvp. it is like cancer and slowly killing people with skill will to be good at games and just choose the cheap route

65% means nothing, you need exotic res

[Rogisgodlike]

Ubisoft must nerf the Stick Bomb on PvP area of the game, otherwise the experience they are trying to creat will collapse pretty fast. People are changing very easily their gearset to hit at least near 40K of Skill Power, so they can kill with one hit ANY player. You can have 65% of protection, or even over 100K of life, this Stick Bomb set its stupid strong. They invented lots of weapons to choose from, multiple combinations of gear, but when one simple ability can kill you with just one hit, no matter how low you are on DPS, there is something wrong with the balance of the game.

Please, help this thread get attention from the community that are happy with the game and don't want some jerk that "invented" this simple one kill solution, ruin the game. It's already a pain in the *** the cheaters and exploiters of the game, please don't let this thing go legit.

Lol You must have met me in the DZ ROGISGODLIKE i wipe out entire teams with my sticky bomb. no it doesn't need to be nerfed, cause i only get one shot then i get wiped out if i miss. I been using sticky bomb build for quite awhile now and i see more people are trying to do it, but they just aren't as good as me with it. people just mad cause there is something to combat the 2 second sentry head shot kills now. beside sticky bomb suck in tight spaces the user will most of the time wind up killing him/her self with it anyways.