Please, STOP forcing People with exclusive equip into Darkzone if they don't want it. | Forums

[aldramelech]

Right, and that is my point EXACTLY! Its a want versus a need. As a PVE player you WANT to have the shinies, but you dont NEED them to complete your missions. As a PVP player you NEED that higher end gear because you NEED to keep up with other players or your just fodder. If I have a GS 204 AUG or M1A and im running PVE missions, does it really matter if im killing mobs slightly faster then you are as long as we meet our objective and that is finishing the mission? This argument is asinine at best. Show me PVE content that you can not complete without DZ gear and I will feel sympathy for these people, until then wait for the patches and see what happens.

The new Incursion has a minimum GS of 220, so if a PVE player cannot get that gear playing PVE, he won't be able to play the new PVE content when it drops, see the problem now??????

[Yhasper]

Right, and that is my point EXACTLY! Its a want versus a need. As a PVE player you WANT to have the shinies, but you dont NEED them to complete your missions. As a PVP player you NEED that higher end gear because you NEED to keep up with other players or your just fodder. If I have a GS 204 AUG or M1A and im running PVE missions, does it really matter if im killing mobs slightly faster then you are as long as we meet our objective and that is finishing the mission? This argument is asinine at best. Show me PVE content that you can not complete without DZ gear and I will feel sympathy for these people, until then wait for the patches and see what happens.

Of course it is a 'want'. But taking your argumentation to the extreme, you also just 'want' to keep up. You don't need to. Of course it's easier to kill other players with GS204 weapons, but do you need them? You can kill them just as fine with GS182 weapons. You 'want' to get better gear to make it easier for you, you don't need it.

Cheers,
GG.Yhasper

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[Muelgarz_qc]

The new Incursion has a minimum GS of 220, so if a PVE player cannot get that gear playing PVE, he won't be able to play the new PVE content when it drops, see the problem now??????

They say the GS 220 for the new incursion its only a number's factor. Its not permanent. Its only for indication.

[aldramelech]

They say the GS 220 for the new incursion its only a number's factor. Its not permanent. Its only for indication.

But if the current one is anything to go by entering that one with anything sub 200 will be a complete waste of time, you won't get a group, you won't complete it if you do and another batch of pissed off and frustrated players will leave.

[LepantoESP]

These posts are absurd. Sorry, they are.

It's the equivalent of a vocal community of WoW players saying they want the Raid gear to drop in HCs because they don't like raids.

[Yhasper]

But if the current one is anything to go by entering that one with anything sub 200 will be a complete waste of time, you won't get a group, you won't complete it if you do and another batch of pissed off and frustrated players will leave.

unfortunately that's usually the case in random groups. If you are looking for some like minded individuals, you should do just fine.

[Muelgarz_qc]

OP If you don't want to do the dailies in the DZ .. no one is forcing you. Is it so important that you need the 10 PC. .... if you don't want to get better gear and all, well you can stay in the PVE environnement. You can still get GS of 204. but right now there only one place that can give you that, its the incursion. Or you can try to do other challenging mission to get better loot from elite boss. and maybe getting a chance to get a green..... buts so far i wasnt lucky...

[LepantoESP]

The new Incursion has a minimum GS of 220, so if a PVE player cannot get that gear playing PVE, he won't be able to play the new PVE content when it drops, see the problem now??????

The problem is that you are wrong. Gear Requirements will be equal to those of FL, it was said this week during the Twitch.

[aldramelech]

The problem is that you are wrong. Gear Requirements will be equal to those of FL, it was said this week during the Twitch.

And as I have said, good luck getting into a decent group with a sub 200 gear score. Now if hanging around waiting for the MM to do it's thing and then getting kicked constantly is your thing then more power to you, I'd rather play something that I can actually, well you know, PLAY?

[RefugeAssassin]

No in a word. The gear sets are all locked behind Incursion or the DZ, all you can get in the BoO is masks and kneepads, all the 204 and up BP's are all in the DZ leaving you to farm PC in the PVE area and then having to wait and HOPE that your lucky enough to get the stuff on sale that you want on a Friday. That can take weeks of waiting.

I hit 1000 PC earlier in the week, both weapons on offer this week are crap, I can't earn anymore PC's and now I have to hope that today brings something good, if nothing good comes, I'll have to wait until next Friday until it changes again. So what do I do in the meantime? Well basically go and play something else cause I have zero interest in the DZ as it is and I have never found one decent team to complete an incursion on Hard, let alone challenging. Also there is the small fact that it's as boring as watching paint dry.

Basically PVE players are now in the position of having NOTHING to do when they have 1000PC and nothing to spend it on.

That is not a problem with the Blueprints that are available in the DZ, that is a problem of lack of end game content for PVE players. You also have to keep in mind that this game was released with 2 parts to it, a PVE zone and a PVP zone. If someone only chooses to do one of the 2, they are missing out on 50% of the current endgame content, but again that is a choice that person makes. If you dont want to go in the DZ, dont lobby for it to be changed so the people who actually do play it and like it have to suffer, lobby to get more endgame content for your playstyle, which is PVE only.

The new Incursion has a minimum GS of 220, so if a PVE player cannot get that gear playing PVE, he won't be able to play the new PVE content when it drops, see the problem now??????

As for the 220GS its been said that it is a place holder and not the expected limit. That being said do you really think they are going to release this new incursion with a HARD MODE GS requirement of 220? There will likely be a hard and challenging modes with different requirements and you will most likely have to gear up in hard mode before moving on to Challenging, just like FL is now. Your not going to be locked out of anything.

Of course it is a 'want'. But taking your argumentation to the extreme, you also just 'want' to keep up. You don't need to. Of course it's easier to kill other players with GS204 weapons, but do you need them? You can kill them just as fine with GS182 weapons. You 'want' to get better gear to make it easier for you, you don't need it.

Cheers,
GG.Yhasper

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Again, the player has a choice, there is no forcing to be found here. DZ and gear or wait for content updates to PVE and work on that.