The Division - dead in a month? | Forums

[Three Snowshoes]

so the question is, why have you stopped playing?

dont like the DZ?
the cheaters in the DZ?
lack of story content?
all the silly bugs and glitches?
all the functionality changes forcing you to go into the DZ, when you dont like it in there?

How about all of the above...and then some? Does that suffice as an answer?

[thearchaic1]

They will be back.

Massive and UBISoft in their "infinite wisdom" don't just perma ban hackers. They instead, hope to turn them into legit players with a pathetic warning. Yeah, that's gonna work... Not.

They can't just out right perma ban someone the first time that they are caught. It's an EU customer service law that they have on the books. They are required to ban someone for no more than 15 days for the first offense. hence the 14 day first ban they get. After that however, all bets are off as they have abided by the law.

[OhLookAtThat]

They can't just out right perma ban someone the first time that they are caught. It's an EU customer service law that they have on the books. They are required to ban someone for no more than 15 days for the first offense. hence the 14 day first ban they get. After that however, all bets are off as they have abided by the law.

I'm pretty sure EU customer service laws are enforced in the EU only...

[CzGilt]

Well, got my season pass refunded by Microsoft yesterday, deleted the Division today, trade in tomorrow. Jobs a good un.

Hopefully Ubi will learn from the clusterf**k but I doubt it, last 3 Ubi games (this, R6 and Farcry Primal) have been huge disappointments.

Its not just those. Few I remember

Watch dog - Disaster
AC Unity - Bugged in unplayable state
Heroe of Might and Magic - That was pure offence to the players of series - I preordered and played less then hour... it was realy, arealy bad.
Now division - buged - Ok I spend 300+ hours in there and most of the time I had fun... so not so bad.

But clearly I will preorder no game in future which will be made under UBI soft. They clearly showed us, that last thing they care obout are the players.

[BavEagle]

This...

3. Nip exploits in the bud. Fix them as soon as possible, and make a clear statement that exploiting is not tolerated. After fair warning, eliminate any exploit gains. Probate where necessary. (When you allow exploiting, the game turns into legitimate players vs non-legitimate players. Human nature dictates that the majority of people will take the path of least resistance. Once you have a great number of people with non-legitimate goods, but you're not removing them, you're forced to completely re-design your gameplay balance to reflect that reality. The problem is, legitimate players suffer and will leave, and you're left with a game that's almost impossible to balance, especially for newcomers.)

Thanks for talking plain and you're so right by telling.

I think it'll start picking up popularity once they start addressing the initial issues. I think this was a system shock initially due to some bad decisions early on. However, they have been working towards fixing them. Although the initial reputation will hurt for awhile, it'll probably start to get better over time. Massive has a lot of work ahead of them, however. I'd say, it's a sudden drop early on, but a slow gain over the next few months once it finds its balance. It'll probably never hit the initial hype but be enough to stick around for awhile. My best advice to the decision makers is to do some research and learn from other people's mistakes. The majority of the issues that caused the crash are basic 101 design in the modern gaming industry that were completely ignored.

Maybe it's already too late for The Division, but we will see...

[tph1976]

I'm pretty sure EU customer service laws are enforced in the EU only...

But they can't use two different rule sets for the entire cmmunity. So there is that.

[OhLookAtThat]

But they can't use two different rule sets for the entire cmmunity. So there is that.

Why not exactly? Developers often have to adjust to local laws, censorship is a good example. I'm pretty sure that German players of Carmageddon hit zombies or robots with their cars while others hit humans. The GTA franchise didn't have drugs and/or prostitutes in many of its games in countries like Germany and Australia. These games had multiplayer modes and I can't remember a single lawsuit because of the differences.

[Cadillac-Jack]

Well, got my season pass refunded by Microsoft yesterday, deleted the Division today, trade in tomorrow..

I haven't played for 3 weeks now, i'll take a look at the 1.2 patch when it drops just to see if the big map/light zone is active/populated with stuff to do if not i'll just trade it in and put the money towards another game, only ones that have grabbed my attention are Mafia III and No Mans Sky and that's it for thiss year with games.

The Division

3 years of following it
2 years of excitement and anticipation
in the end I got a brilliant game from rank 0 to 30 in a beautiful detailed map.and a half dcent story
(then nothing the game went dead)

Never again will I buy into hype like this lol look at Battlefield 1 hyped to Hell and back over a 1 minute trailer that won't represent the finished product in any way it'll come out as a complete buggy mess like BF4 did (lesson learnt not buying BF1 full stop)

PS: i'd rather put my money into indie developer teams instead of these big corporate giants that are quite frankly taking the PS out of gamers.

[FaLLeN-89]

guys...... the drops on the Playerrate on PC is cuz of the banwaves. a lot of active Players got banned wait 1 more week till all unbanned.
+ the new update 1.2 and it will rise again!

[tph1976]

Because neither of the examples you mention deal with the sanction of players.

This would require a code of conduct per country. And that is a logistical nightmare. Not only that but it is incredibly easy to hide your IP address. Meaning that both these issues would require a huge amount of resources that would be unworkable.

Not to mention the fact that I can buy the game in the EU, play outside the EU but still be protected under EU law because the contract is actually established in a EU country.

So that is why