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    It's already been said by another poster - they are cheaters, not hackers. I'll bet most of them could not even make a web page even if they had a tutorial guide. Anyway, was this simply some kind of publicity stunt? some would have us believe that, of course they do not provide one shred of evidence to support their theory, time will tell I suppose.

    I personally disagree with the punishment for '1st offence' as there is a high chance that the player has been cheating for some time. There should be a full character wipe along with the 14 day ban. If it was up to me it would be perm ban, no second chances, after all you can't accidentally install and use a 3rd party cheat program.
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    Originally Posted by TickTak77 Go to original post
    People are badly over-estimating a hacker's resolve here.

    2-week ban is a pretty substantial ban for someone who literally spends time searching for hacks on the internet, downloading them, installing them, activating them, and then learn how to use them.

    Hackers aren't casual players. They are people invested in this game.

    2-week ban is a good first penalty. Clean up your sh*t, or **** off.

    I would also imagine that those that are 2-week banned, would get some sort of advanced monitoring of their behavior when their 2 weeks is up, so that permaban kicks in pretty quickly if they eff up again.
    It is still insufficient.

    They have still profited, possibly quite lucratively and at the expense of other players, for the offence.

    Reset their characters, accounts and holdings to 'new player' on their return so they have to earn everything unquestionably legitimately and/or immediately relapse into cheating to be permanently banned.

    It is a fair, obvious and necessary measure.

    And just to make sure you offer window of opportunity to deal with any potential false positives, the account stripping should be evaluated and done at time of re-instatement so there was two weeks to appeal and address the situation.

    Suspensions are a pointless gesture if they keep the results of profiting from the frustration and toxicity these idiots generate for others in significant proportion.

    If the new policies being implemented do not fundamentally remove substantial material gain from the player's who are found guilty of cheating, be it deliberate, calculated exploiting for great profitability or hacking directly, both of which are actions aimed at gaining unfair advantage over others in a competitive space, then the '14 day bans' are intended to sound menacing but are just as toothless as the similar 3 day suspensions they replace.

    Your opinion may vary of course.
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    Originally Posted by TickTak77 Go to original post
    What you saw was literally a vertical slice of their cheat-catching plan. The eyeball test.

    What measures they have on the backend to find others, we don't know, but based on the bans being handed out today, we can assume that there is some sort of self-monitoring system that flags suspicious behavior
    Why would watching the stream lead you to assume that? I took it at they had to have others catch them because they couldn't do it themselves. If there were some type of self monitoring, wouldn't they have been caught before or instead of having them find it and prove to Hamish they were cheating?

    Don't forget, there were several others they were 100% cheating but they weren't banned because it wasn't caught on video....
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    Originally Posted by Ezilyamuz3d Go to original post
    Why would watching the stream lead you to assume that? I took it at they had to have others catch them because they couldn't do it themselves. If there were some type of self monitoring, wouldn't they have been caught before or instead of having them find it and prove to Hamish they were cheating?

    Don't forget, there were several others they were 100% cheating but they weren't banned because it wasn't caught on video....
    Because they've discussed their anti-cheat methods, partially, in other mediums other than the one single solitary stream that you watched today.
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