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    Make 240/214 GS set items more accessible please

    Make 240/214 GS set items more accessible please, it would give casual players who didn't exploit a better chance at catching up, as well as meeting the next incursion's GS requirements before June/July.
    As far as i know (could be wrong), the only place you can get 240 GS items is the very hard and very boring Falcon Lost incursion on challenging difficulty, casuals like myself and many others don't have the time or patience to spend hours trying to beat one "horde mode" mission for the best gear (let alone finding a good team[matchmaking sucks]) and therefor we get left in the dust and two-shot killed in the DZ quite easily. It takes the fun out of the already lacking end game, not only is the DZ full of exploiters with very good gear, but the only way to stand a chance against them in the future is to beat this incursion on hard once a week for many weeks until i have good enough gear (and hopefully a solid team) to attempt challenging, and then do it again on challenging for weeks on end, making the end game content worse than it was without the incursion.
    There are a couple things that could fix this, making GS 240 items more easily accessible is the best option in my opinion, it will even things out over time.
    I have a couple more issues with the game but i think this large gap between players needs to be the first one to be solved, and basic stat (protection from elites) and talent glitches.

    Good luck Massive/Ubisoft, I know you'll find a way to balance things,
    Thanks for reading
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    *Cough* Phoenix Creds *Cough* DZ6 Vendor BPs *Cough* That gives you at least 8x 214-240 without Incursions.

    This isn't a "Play for a week to have the best gear" game like Call of Duty. It is an MMORPG.
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    you can only get mask and knee pad BPs of the nomad set in DZ06 i'm pretty sure, they sell two items pre rolled (usually not so good) at GS 191 and the BPs are 214, no 240 available there. the BoO only sells the mask and knee pad BPs for the other sets so thats not even a full set of the low end set gear you can wear without incursions & i understand that i'm not supposed to get stacked right away, but when so many people are already stacked because of an exploit the devs are to blame for & the DZ is a slaughter fest because of it, the devs should do something, whether they have another solution or not, this is just a suggestion
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    In some ways I agree, as in they should look at making the Challenge incursion more accessible.

    But I do not think they should make the items drop easier. The problem now is the game is easy. My GS is like 192 - there is absolutely nothing the game provides that is hard except the incursion on Challenge which is impossible. So really there is no need to even provide the 240 items right now except to do the challenge incursion, so effectively they have locked the items required to do the mission behind the actual mission

    Personally I think they should open challenge mode on the last mission and lock some higher tier rewards there.


    N.B.

    I will add that incursion needs a buff, it only rewards decent gear 1 time per week and is a decent time investment
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    Originally Posted by risk4of2injury0 Go to original post
    casuals like myself and many others don't have the time or patience to spend hours trying to beat one "horde mode" mission for the best gear (let alone finding a good team[matchmaking sucks]) and therefor we get left in the dust and two-shot killed in the DZ quite easily.
    so its unfair that someone who puts in more time then you and has the patience to do a mission gets better gear then you.....soooo unfair lol

    the solution is rather simple, come to terms with the fact in this type of game unless you put time and effort into the game, you aren't going to get the best gear.
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    I don't want them to be more accessible. They are already extremely accessible. They drop on every kill of the incursion that they were meant to come from. I would like them to be worth a damn. If I get a set I want to be able to say... check out this set I got, because I earned it. Not because it was given to me on some vendor. Top gear is not meant for casuals to have on day 1. You have to work for it. Whether that means getting better at the game, or spending lots of time to have the recommended gear or better, instead of going in with the minimum gear. Either way everyone should have to earn the best gear. If you can't get it, you can always wait until the next tier is released and the 240s become easy to obtain as they are moved to a vendor somewhere.

    Many people like the effort needed to build a set.

    There isn't much catching up to do either. The set items are all RNG stat wise and set piece wise as drops. Everyone just assumes those exploiters are ahead of them significantly. They really aren't that far ahead. There is no difference in the set bonus on a 191 from Hard mode and a 240. The set bonus is exactly the same. The stats also are not guaranteed to be better. I have 191 gear that is better than my 240 gear. I've actually broken down 2 of my 240s so far, because the stats on my 191 was better. So to assume that they all have amazing gear is unrealistic. You could get a full set of 191 super easy in the Hard version of the incursion and do just as well. It's the set bonuses that are the powerful aspect of the gear.

    The only other thing that 240 gear is good for is the fear factor. People see them in the DZ and say..wow look at the GS i'm not messing with them. Which can be effective if you just want to farm bosses. The bigger problem is the people in the DZ hacking, and you could have a 160 GS and do that.
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    So you have done the incursion on Challenging?

    Anyone on console done the incursion on Challenging?
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    I think we are in the minority risk4of2injury0. I actually agree that the 240 gear needs more inroads. Destiny recently learned this fact. End game gear needs more inroads. I do agree the best gear in the game needs to have value and the only way that is going to happen is if it is hard to obtain. They only problem is that in this case, it is hidden behind a very boring end game content. Additionally, I do not like how the enemies can one shot me even though I have full damage mitigation.
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    I don't understand why some people think boring, tedious game play is considered difficult. Just because you are willing to stick it out even though it's not fun, or because you have a solid group of friends who play, doesn't mean everyone else should have to suffer.

    There is nothing elite or cool about getting the top end gear. It shows you either cheated the system or you are simply in a better situation than someone else. It doesn't make you a better player nor does it mean you somehow deserve an item. It just means you were willing to grind out something that wasn't fun. Congratulations.

    I agree that there needs to be more access to higher end gear. I have no issues with 240 gear being behind the challenging incursion, but 214 and lower gear needs to drop like rain in challenging missions and in incursion on hard. The lack of gear drops is a huge problem that is driving people away from the game. Massive needs to fix this and fix it soon.
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    Originally Posted by Ruinned01 Go to original post
    so its unfair that someone who puts in more time then you and has the patience to do a mission gets better gear then you.....soooo unfair lol

    the solution is rather simple, come to terms with the fact in this type of game unless you put time and effort into the game, you aren't going to get the best gear.
    normally i'd b fine with it but in this case the majority of people who have a whole lot of the best gear didn't get it legitimately, so it is unfair, they didn't put the extra time and effort into it, and because of that there are a lot of players i can't survive more than a couple seconds against if they decide to shoot me, almost everyone i run into in the DZ, before the incursion exploiters it was a relatively even battle, that's where my problem is, i used to have a good time farming in the DZ even though it was risky, now it's suicide haha
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