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@HeaverBeaver115: Never mind, we don't understand each other. This was zero fault question. Simple as that. Not according to bonxy or some 3rd party list,, not under 14sec, just 0 faults. It means, I could jump around and set 9 min and 59 sec and it is still will be 0 faults. The only relevant list is stored on RL servers. If somebody want to make accurate list, RL servers is place to look. I am not interested to bother with it.
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@ lesorsier: Of course the times are stored on the RL servers, but where does Bonxy get his times from, the RL servers of course, so every time in the Top whatever that number is will be displayed on his site, so surely your time will be displayed as well, if not then how should I know? By the way, I have no idea or what point you were trying to prove so I'm just gonna leave it here, because it seems pointless to talk about something which has no relevance towards anything at all, it seemed well off-topic.
Still can't do WC faultless, no matter how many times I look at lesorsier's video, it's impossible from my end, I'm certainly trying here but I'm losing patience rapidly on WC, still all about that bunny-hop after the wheel in my case, it always goes wrong there, almost every time. 
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Since it helped me so much to have lesorsiers Woodwoork Conclave video here... these others from him might be useful for the usual suspects (its helping me) 
Traction Testground
Widowmaker
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@ lesorsier: Forget it, I don't care anymore, you don't need to keep explaining it because it's irrelevant, but I don't know why you weren't taking Sine City seriously, but were you ping-ponging or what? And I don't know how you can get a video with Sine City without tremendous luck, and to show the fact that a time was already there with the Donkey, but you would also need to do Sine City properly, for maximum points as well, so do a video first and show that you have beaten your Personal Best, then do it properly afterwards, even if it means you don't like gobbling up heaps of Golden Tickets, and make sure your time goes on Bonxy's site even though it won't matter at this point because then I would have seen enough proof then, but keep one main factor involved, just show me that you have done it previously, because after reading what you just said just now about JUSTGREEN saying that you needed all 205 and the fact that you were missing WC back then just got me a little suspicious, because your time on Sine City wasn't on Bonxy's site so it made me think that you haven't done it so that you could be in the club, to save yourself the hassle from getting Sine City, but you've said that you have done it but it's not shown up on Bonxy's site, so you see why I'm suspicious? Right now I'm not saying I don't believe you or anything like that, I just find the whole thing hard to believe, that's all, but I will take your word on it. If you want to prove that you've done Sine City, go ahead. I still have my fair share of work to do, just like everybody else, and the amount of time I'm putting into WC is a lot more than expected and I certainly thought that I would have done it faultless already and I haven't yet, of course I would have needed to do WC at some point, but now, urghhh... 
Of course, when you make a video, it will never be perfect, just like your runs in that video, but everything has to start somewhere, and then improve over time, even though those runs are still useful, because it still has vital bits where it shows you how to progress, that's the whole point of it, but then you make another video later on as the run is a lot smoother and a lot better, but it still shows you the important parts of the video. Lesorsier's TT video, right at the end was sloppy, but he did make it, and to be fair, the last obstacle is a pain because it's hard to judge when to get that back wheel of the moving pole to head towards the finish line, but he just about got there... Of course lesorsier's videos are useful and helpful, for me it's especially helpful on WC, every time I look at it in slo-mo, even though I feel I'm not progressing at all, but it has majorly helped me a lot and of course, everybody else as well. Really want to do WC but again, same story, and it's also going to take a huge random slice of luck somewhere, just like getting Sine City with the Donkey. So, in my case I will need 2 huge random slices of luck for both tracks, but I'd rather stick with 2 huge slices of cake though.
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@ lesorsier: Forget it, I don't care anymore, you don't need to keep explaining it because it's irrelevant, but I don't know why you weren't taking Sine City seriously, but were you ping-ponging or what? And I don't know how you can get a video with Sine City without tremendous luck, and to show the fact that a time was already there with the Donkey, but you would also need to do Sine City properly, for maximum points as well, so do a video first and show that you have beaten your Personal Best, then do it properly afterwards, even if it means you don't like gobbling up heaps of Golden Tickets, and make sure your time goes on Bonxy's site even though it won't matter at this point because then I would have seen enough proof then, but keep one main factor involved, just show me that you have done it previously, because after reading what you just said just now about JUSTGREEN saying that you needed all 205 and the fact that you were missing WC back then just got me a little suspicious, because your time on Sine City wasn't on Bonxy's site so it made me think that you haven't done it so that you could be in the club, to save yourself the hassle from getting Sine City, but you've said that you have done it but it's not shown up on Bonxy's site, so you see why I'm suspicious? Right now I'm not saying I don't believe you or anything like that, I just find the whole thing hard to believe, that's all, but I will take your word on it. If you want to prove that you've done Sine City, go ahead. I still have my fair share of work to do, just like everybody else, and the amount of time I'm putting into WC is a lot more than expected and I certainly thought that I would have done it faultless already and I haven't yet, of course I would have needed to do WC at some point, but now, urghhh...
Of course, when you make a video, it will never be perfect, just like your runs in that video, but everything has to start somewhere, and then improve over time, even though those runs are still useful, because it still has vital bits where it shows you how to progress, that's the whole point of it, but then you make another video later on as the run is a lot smoother and a lot better, but it still shows you the important parts of the video. Lesorsier's TT video, right at the end was sloppy, but he did make it, and to be fair, the last obstacle is a pain because it's hard to judge when to get that back wheel of the moving pole to head towards the finish line, but he just about got there... Of course lesorsier's videos are useful and helpful, for me it's especially helpful on WC, every time I look at it in slo-mo, even though I feel I'm not progressing at all, but it has majorly helped me a lot and of course, everybody else as well. Really want to do WC but again, same story, and it's also going to take a huge random slice of luck somewhere, just like getting Sine City with the Donkey. So, in my case I will need 2 huge random slices of luck for both tracks, but I'd rather stick with 2 huge slices of cake though.
ok, I'll make a video next time. Sine City is irrelevant anyway as anybody can make it without fault.
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@ lesorsier: Ok, good luck with getting Sine City when you get it. Also, I apologise if I took that argument a bit too far, I wasn't trying to be harsh but I just wanted to make sure that you did do Sine City legitimately, and therefore I was checking if you were trying to get into this club legitimately as well. That was all.
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@ xitooner: The fact that the only way to access what time you have is just by playing the PvP track in the Bunker sounds ridiculous to me, and in this case the sheer luck that lesorsier would need in order to access it just to prove that he has done it is also ridiculous as well, but I wasn't going as far as 'criticising' him because he hasn't got any proof, it's actually because he doesn't have any reasonable access to that proof so he can't prove that he is in this club, even though he should have that access to it so he can prove that he has done it. But the fact that I need a video of him doing Sine City and to show me that he had a previous time as proof itself is very obscure, rash and quite unnecessary as well since we should easily have access to those tracks. Agreed, it is frustrating at times like these where you wish it was a lot simpler.
@ lesorsier: Don't bother with that video, it's bothersome enough to get Sine City, and also it's up to JUSTGREEN, he's in charge of the club so me saying whether you have done Sine City or not isn't even down to me and it doesn't matter anyway, since I'm not in charge and the fact that I need a video as proof is beyond ridiculous anyway.
Still no further progress made on WC or Hill Climb.
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@HeaverBeaver115: No hard fillings. There is no way to access pvp tracks list in the game, so there is no way to be sure of anything regarding those tracks. And your "bonxy" method is wrong for many reasons. It is 3rd party data base that can be altered, and bonxy don't download all data. He made script for himself, he probably has all tracks in rank 1-1500 and he don't download the rest.
And, according to bonxy, there are 206 tracks on the map. So according to bonxy nobody of us has all tracks, it means nobody is in this all tracks 0 club.
But I am not interested in luck based club,.. it is like loot wheel winners club. what is the point of that? I am more interested in skill based donkey club, something that will be accessible to everyone. So without tracks that nobody can get, without speed tracks which are irrelevant. Just challenge packs, island and those technical tracks like Quagmire, Balance Avenue, Dark Machine,... etc, that anyone can get. And than we can have real competition. Than we can add time savers and different route requests, etc....use your imagination.
And I got leaked track and I am the winner because nobody else can get it, what is the point of that?
